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Quote from: ThumperDeuce on July 10, 2009, 05:08:33 PM
I am all for buying American and try to as much as possible.  Just be aware that the Speaker unit is not a pure HID capsule.  The high beam is Halogen.  One of the main reasons I am changing is to get rid of the filiments.

What do you mean by Speaker unit and HID capsule   Are you talking about the Kuryakyn unit?

Quote from: crazy joe on July 15, 2009, 07:56:42 PM
I looked hi I looked low and cant find the   Kuryakyn XE7R 7IN HID HEADLAMP
for anything lower then 450.50 anyone got any ideas thanks

Try here:
http://www.motosport.com/street/product/KURYAKYN-XE7R-7in-HID-HEADLAMP/?catalogId=103963&
If I didn't already have one, I'd be all over this one!

Sold out    I checked : ( 

Speaker was the company referenced in a previous post to this thread.  I went to their website to see what they were offering.  HID bulbs are referred to as capsules.  I just wanted to point out that the light sold by Speaker is the hybrid type bulb using a hid/halogen source.  I am not saying anything bad about it just stating what you are getting.  The reason I am going to a HID light is to get rid of the filiments.  So the Speaker unit is not for me as the Halogen portion uses a filiment.  On a Deuce I don't have passing lights to rewire as was previously recommended.  I am going with the Kuryakyn unit because the ballast is contained in the headlight unit so I don't have to try to find somewhere to mount it on my Deuce.  If I wanted to deal with finding a place to hang the ballast I would probably get this:
http://www.kbcarstuff.com/Motorcycle_Xenon_HID_Conversion_Kits_s/34.htm
The Kuryakyn unit is a single capsule hid that mechanically refocuses the beam for hi and low beam functions.  I have never seen one operate so I can not comment on how effective they are yet.  

From what I have read here the Kuryakyn is a good unit   I have been looking at them for a few
years but could not get any feedback till now  Lets hope its as good as it looks these eyes need
some help at night : )

Quote from: ThumperDeuce on July 15, 2009, 08:41:41 PM
Speaker was the company referenced in a previous post to this thread.  I went to their website to see what they were offering.  HID bulbs are referred to as capsules.  I just wanted to point out that the light sold by Speaker is the hybrid type bulb using a hid/halogen source.  I am not saying anything bad about it just stating what you are getting.  The reason I am going to a HID light is to get rid of the filiments.  So the Speaker unit is not for me as the Halogen portion uses a filiment.  On a Deuce I don't have passing lights to rewire as was previously recommended.  I am going with the Kuryakyn unit because the ballast is contained in the headlight unit so I don't have to try to find somewhere to mount it on my Deuce.  If I wanted to deal with finding a place to hang the ballast I would probably get this:
http://www.kbcarstuff.com/Motorcycle_Xenon_HID_Conversion_Kits_s/34.htm
The Kuryakyn unit is a single capsule hid that mechanically refocuses the beam for hi and low beam functions.  I have never seen one operate so I can not comment on how effective they are yet.  

Thumper; you may need a larger bucket for the kuryakyn unit.Remember the jw speaker unit was engineered from scrartch as an hid unit. My buddy has tried them all. The speaker unit throws a longer wider beam than the others.Thump,how often are you gonna use the hidgh beam?  Btw,the speaker is only made in 7"

The kuryakyn unit comes as a complete unit to replace the headlight assembly.  I would kind of like to put a longer headlight can on the Deuce anyway to have the lines of the front end flow a little more.   How often will I use the high beam?  I don't know but when I do I want it to work.  The two reasons I am going with the Kuryakyn unit are 1)  I don't want to have to locate the ballast remotely somewhere on the frame, and  2)  I don't want any filiments in the bulbs.  I am removing the balancers from my 'b' engine this winter and am trying to remove anything that may fail as a result of the increased vibrations.

Quote from: crazy joe on July 15, 2009, 08:56:00 PM
From what I have read here the Kuryakyn is a good unit   I have been looking at them for a few
years but could not get any feedback till now  Lets hope its as good as it looks these eyes need
some help at night : )

Trust me, the Kuryakyn is a great headlight for Electra Glides.  Their HID cost about the same as a set of Progressive 440 shocks, but does so much more! Everyone comments on my visibility, day or night.  Call California Phil and see what he can do for you.  It's where I got mine 3 years ago.  It's where I buy just about all my aftermarket parts, tires, etc.  Phil is a good man and runs a good shop.   


http://www.harleypartscheap.com/index.htm 

Call Jenni and give her the Drag Specialty # 2001-0264  For the Kuryakin unit and see what she can do. 20% off as a rule.

L-

Get a friend that wants to share
got to www.xenondepot.com
,
get the h4 car kit, split it, $90 each for one ballast, wires, relay, and H4 Phillips bulb low beam only.

Simple to wire in, run the power for the ballast (fused link to relay) back to the battery for good clean power.

Run the ground to any good ground,

Everything else is plug and play.

With spots the low beam is more than enough, I have the Lo/Hi bulb, basically there is a 5% difference between low and high, if that...

You can split the Hi'lo kit if you feel the need to have a high and low beam, but JMO not worth the bucks.


No reason to dump $500 for the kuryakyn kit, it's not a bad kit, and the price isnt bad when you add in the nacielle extension, light housing, ballast, bulbs wires. 

But you don't need it, HD's new reflectors and even some of the olderones put out a good beam pattern.

IF you have the HD Dual bulb (CVO) then you can get the H11 kit for the low beam, split it about the same $90 cost, and drop in a whiter high beam halogen, again it's just gonna be for show as the Phillips Low beams in the HID HD Dual bulb are very bright and give off a ton of light.

Kuryakyn has a softail kit, it uses a different projector beam bulb, good stuff but fugly.

Wish I had seen this post in April     MotoSport has sold out the Kuryakyn unit 
I have spent close to 400.00 in reflectors and bulbs looking for a good light
(even Daniel Stern)  Ended up using stock reflectors & PIAA bulbs
But I want HID I have driven Autos with HID and it was almost like day were the light hit
even went as far as cover one side and it still lit up the road (on the car)  If i knew for sure
one of the less expensive kits would work I Might buy them but the Kuryakyn has a warranty
and has been recommend by more the one person. Any other places to look the the KURY unit
380.00 is the best I have been able to find. Thanks for the input

I just installed hids on  my road king 2 days ago, with the 4300k kit from xenon depot, I will try to get some before and after pictures up tonight,   It is unbelievable the amount of light these things put out, I wish I would have done it long ago. Todd

Joe,

I have these from xenon depot on 4 bikes, two ultras, a road glide and a 98 road king, I will put it on
my 00 Heritage when it cools off enough in the garage for me to want to sit out there...

So far EVERY one of the riders has seen an improvement (I own the 09 RG) it is a MAJOR improvement

The two ultras have the HD dual bulb kit already, that way they just need the low beam HID, and still keep the halogen high, but frankly the halogen high beam is like a fart in a whirlwind, worthless... as the HID low stays lit on that kit.

Todd just validated it.

These guys sell to the sportbike crowd all the time.

The RK has a good ol tribar old kuryakyn lens. 
My RG has the stock HD lens

It's the bomb..

Ok   so whats part# would I use   I see they have different K ratings   Will it have all the goodies
I need to install on a 03 EG (if its what I'm looking for 2nd one will go on a 98 RK) What kind
of warranty does it have?  And I'm sorry for all the questions but what is the difference between
the one from XenonDepot and the one from Kuryakyn   (Kuryakyn has more info so I can see
what I'm buying)  Thank you so much for replying to my questions   

Check but I believe the 03 and the 98 are both H4 bulbs so you want

4300K Phillips bulbs Low beam only automotive kit (two of everything)

Go to Xenon Depot

Click on HID Kits on the menu bar
Then the top picture of the HID kits HID Xtreme Kits in the window
4300 Xtreme HID

The kit is p/n  XT-4k-9006    9006 / HB4 4300k Xtreme Xenon HID Conversion Kit    $199.99

Use the code BMWLT it should give you a discount when you order online.   

Because you have an Ultra and an RK what I would do is call and ask for Steve (he's a bit hard to get a hold of) but tell him I sent you and you want to order the car kit but you are going to split the kit on two bikes, your Ultra and RK.  

Tell him you need the car ballast for the Ultra (shorter wire so less wires in faring) and
that you want the motorcycle ballast (same ballast but 6 foot wire) for the RK

The reason is on the RK you can hide the ballast under one of the side panels, or inside the frame under the seat in that open area, somewhere back on the bike. It's not huge but you don't want to hide it in the nacelle,  Positive power to battery, ground to frame.

The longer wire is insulated, I simply snaked it up under the tank on the right side of the frame under the nacelle for the light to connect to, zip tied it to the existing harness.  It's very easy to do.  You'll need some heavy duty velcro as well to hold the two bits that will fit into the nacele (relay and connector to light). It's all about positioning parts, and it's pretty easy to do..

I'd take some pictures but that bike is now up in Traverse City MI

On the Ultra you can put the ballast right on top of the radio, velcro and zip tie it to the bike.
run the wires to the proper connector and position and zip tie it.

I velcro'd and zipped the relay in position.  Once you see the stuff it's easy..

Just plug n play.

BTW on the Ultra you want to run the red fused ballast power wire back to the positive terminal on the battery, that can go under the tank from the faring on the Ultra, it's simple.

No cutting is needed to do this install it's all position, plug, n play....

This is basically what you get
2 ballasts
2 harness connectors with Relay
2 HID Bulbs (be sure to ask him for phillips)

That big box on the right in the image is not part of the kit just the stuff to the left.

Remember 1 bike ballast and 1 car ballast, he'll do that for you.

I just realized a potential problem with the Kuryakyn setup for a softail.  Since the capsule mechanically changes the shape of the beam from a single hid source if it burns out while your on the road at night you have no backup source for lighting.  This is making me re-think the bi-xenon setup.  You would have a back up to use, either the unburned out hi or low beam, until you got home.  The odds are pretty small that it would happen, but if it did it would be very inconvenient.  I suppose the alternative would be to carry an exta capsule with you.

Quote from: ThumperDeuce on July 17, 2009, 04:58:03 PM
I just realized a potential problem with the Kuryakyn setup for a softail.  Since the capsule mechanically changes the shape of the beam from a single hid source if it burns out while your on the road at night you have no backup source for lighting.  This is making me re-think the bi-xenon setup.  You would have a back up to use, either the unburned out hi or low beam, until you got home.  The odds are pretty small that it would happen, but if it did it would be very inconvenient.  I suppose the alternative would be to carry an exta capsule with you.

I gotta think that HID capsule would last longer than the bike under most circumstances. Certainly, it would last longer than a bulb with a filiment.
If you're that paranoid about something like that happenning, why don't you just throw a flashlight and some duct tape in your saddlebag?

I am embarrased to admit that I did think of that.  I am kind of a paranoid ( ie anal ) about this stuff.  So what is the rated number of hours these are good for?  Google is your friend. 

They are rated for 2500 to 3000 hours.  Also it seems that I was wrong and that all the bi-xenon capsules are single source and refocus the beam mechanically for hi and low beams, so my previous post does not resolve the issue anyway.  You need to track the numbers of hours on the light.

Here are some pics, the first one is my halogen low and the second one is HID low,  notice how many more median lines you can see with the HIDs, I have more pics but I am sure I will have to have multiple posts to get them on here.  I went with a h11 kit from Xenon Depot.  I had to use the h11 kit because I have the dual beam halogen lens from Harley, which is made by JW speaker and is the same one Harley uses for their HID kit, you cant even tell that it is not a Harley HID setup, plus the Harley kit is DOT approved so this one using a HID lens should be also, Todd

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Here are pics of the halogen high and the HID high, notice there is not much difference between high beam HID and low beam HID from my first post, that is because on high it just adds the halogen h8 and the HID pretty much covers it up

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Here are pictures of halogen high with passing lamps on and HID high with passing lamps on, I have my passing lamps tipped out a little to light up the side of the road, notice I have done the passing lamp mod which keeps my passing lamps on while high beam is on

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Here are some pictures of the front of my bike, the first one is halogen low, the second one is HID low, all in all I am very pleased with this setup and would recommend it to anyone, and I feel it will help with night time driving tremendously, Todd

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hot rod

did the kit you got have the phillips bulbs ?

you said to tell steve you said to call whats your first name?

thanks