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I'm trying to gather tools in advance, in order to do the Neck Bearing maintenance on a 2019 CVO StreetGlide. In the event that I need to change out the bearing races in the steering head in the frame, can any one tell me what the OD dimensions of the races are? I'm guessing approx 62mm-63mm, and am wondering what size of tapered bearing driver I will need to press the races in? Jims USA 5515 race installation tool seems to be made of unobtanium, and out of stock everywhere. Motion-Pro doesn't seem to offer any race drivers in what I think is the larger diameter that I may need. I do have the Motion-Pro 08-0667 steering stem bearing remover/installer tool, but am looking for suggestions regarding the tappered bearings outer races installation. 


 

Quote from: wrenchspinner3 on February 03, 2025, 12:38:38 PMI'm trying to gather tools in advance, in order to do the Neck Bearing maintenance on a 2019 CVO StreetGlide. In the event that I need to change out the bearing races in the steering head in the frame, can any one tell me what the OD dimensions of the races are? I'm guessing approx 62mm-63mm, and am wondering what size of tapered bearing driver I will need to press the races in? Jims USA 5515 race installation tool seems to be made of unobtanium, and out of stock everywhere. Motion-Pro doesn't seem to offer any race drivers in what I think is the larger diameter that I may need. I do have the Motion-Pro 08-0667 steering stem bearing remover/installer tool, but am looking for suggestions regarding the tappered bearings outer races installation. 
 

The tapered races are not too hard to remove if you have a long punch or long flat bar cut to fit.
I have a bearing race installer left over from a trans bearing upgrade (Baker) that works great.
Freeze the races, warm up the neck and they pull in easily.
It's a 62mm od size.

I just replaced my bearings and races last week and the hardest part was to access the fork stem!
Clamshell bearing puller works well. I bought the HD bearing kit that includes all 6 parts.


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Thanks for the info! Using this method, did you pull both races into the neck simultaneously, or just one race at a time?

One at a time, wanted to make sure they were seated all the way.
Did the bottom first.

What the old ones looked like after 99k miles and NO maintenance!
I guess you're supposed to check the every 25 k miles?



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I have a generic seal and race driver kit from Matco.  You don't really need them to match the taper of the inside of the race.  My drivers don't fit there or put pressure there anyway.  They press on the top edge.  The tapered portion just allows it to sit in the race and not slide around.  A proper stepped driver would do the same thing.

I weld the races out.
Homemade tools section, on the form, shows the simple fixtures for removal. 2 beads of weld, on the race also works just as well.

This is the post John mentioned.

Valve Seat & Bearing Race Removers

Quote from: wrenchspinner3 on February 03, 2025, 12:38:38 PMI'm trying to gather tools in advance, in order to do the Neck Bearing maintenance on a 2019 CVO StreetGlide. In the event that I need to change out the bearing races in the steering head in the frame, can any one tell me what the OD dimensions of the races are? I'm guessing approx 62mm-63mm, and am wondering what size of tapered bearing driver I will need to press the races in? Jims USA 5515 race installation tool seems to be made of unobtanium, and out of stock everywhere. Motion-Pro doesn't seem to offer any race drivers in what I think is the larger diameter that I may need. I do have the Motion-Pro 08-0667 steering stem bearing remover/installer tool, but am looking for suggestions regarding the tappered bearings outer races installation. 


 

I have a 2019 CVO Limited and in the process of doing mine, ran into the same issue of trying to find a 5515, I called Jim's and talked to a lady there, she said they would have them available this week and said to have the dealer were your buying it to call them. Anyway did you get yours replaced yet? if so how did the Motion Pro tool work to remove the stem race? I have some Honda tools from back in the day may help me on mine except for that. I have my bike sitting on the lift with the forks out and disassembled to have the lower legs getting powder coated, just got the legs back and waiting for a little warmer weather to start doing the bearings. 

I haven't had to do the job yet, so I can't comment on any of the tools. The Motion Pro stem tool looks like it should work well. I've obtained some generic bearing cone drivers in the 62mm-63mm sizes, and some threaded rod in case I can't get the Jim's 5515 tool.The bearing drivers are aluminum and the threaded rod is usually pretty soft, so I'll see if it works as well as the Jim's tool, which is likely much beefier.

Quote from: wrenchspinner3 on February 20, 2025, 06:30:46 PMI haven't had to do the job yet, so I can't comment on any of the tools. The Motion Pro stem tool looks like it should work well. I've obtained some generic bearing cone drivers in the 62mm-63mm sizes, and some threaded rod in case I can't get the Jim's 5515 tool.The bearing drivers are aluminum and the threaded rod is usually pretty soft, so I'll see if it works as well as the Jim's tool, which is likely much beefier.

Got mine completed, I used a press to press both bearings off the steering stems and to install the new bearings, used a couple of Honda tools from back in the day to drive the races out of the frame, I used a bushing driver with a threaded rod to pull in the new races one at a time, its not back together yet, I may drill and tap for a zerk so I can grease it like the older models, the neck is not open to the frame. My races look the same as the pictures above, I have 52k on my bike.

ok, so now I'm curious about the swing-back measurement procedure to adjust the tension on the neck bearings. For a 2019 CVO Street Glide, the manual states that the final swing-back(#3) stop), should fall between the #1(first line where the wheel just barely starts to swing back while being lightly tapped, and the #2 line (the line measured 1" out from the #1 line). Do they mean it should land on the OPPOSITE side or on the SAME side where you start the swing from the #2 line? If it is the OPPOSITE side, then that means the wheel swings past center, to stop at the opposite side. Currently both my #3 marks land inside the #1 marks, about 1.4" apart.According to an earlier manual(2018 Touring), this indicates the adjustment is too loose but in the 2019 Touring manual, this comment about the final swing-backs both landing between the #1 lines has disappeared.They only seemed concerned about the distance measured between the #3 stop lines.Confused yet?

I think the correct setting is somewhere between wobble and wander. 

....absolutely, haha!

QuoteI may drill and tap for a zerk so I can grease it like the older models

if you do that you'll need IMO to fit 2 zerks, one for the upper bearing, one for the lower bearing ...

The procedure to set the bearings is to make sure the races are fully seated (give them a little tap on both sides).
Grease upper and lower stems.
Tighten to 35 ft lbs.
Back off upper stem 90-100 degrees.
Tighten to 63 in lbs.

When I did mine, the swing back went past center and back to center.
 Upon test riding in all conditions the bike behaves fine.

I looked to put some grease fittings in mine but figured I'd never make another 100K miles on this bike. Couldn't figure how to get to them anyway. Probably would have done remote zerks like on my loader!
 

HogMike is correct on the torque procedure, that is what I did, Here is some more info that may help you.