107" WT 120HP POJECT, WHICH CAM ,WT 26 VS 46 WT

Started by GoFast....., November 11, 2008, 06:34:25 PM

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POORBOY

Well long as what bottles he brings is drinkable :beer:
Poorboy   Moonshine  TN

Deye76

Quote from: ejk_dyna on November 13, 2008, 04:40:00 PM
<<Wood 9B or 9F will take you there as well.>>

...you are correct...just not on this bike...this here is Wild Thing Country   :wink:

For now anyways, subject to change. 4 years ago this was Woods country. (SBC too) :horse:
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Mike52

Quote from: Deye76 on November 15, 2008, 06:18:15 PM
Quote from: ejk_dyna on November 13, 2008, 04:40:00 PM
<<Wood 9B or 9F will take you there as well.>>

...you are correct...just not on this bike...this here is Wild Thing Country   :wink:

For now anyways, subject to change
. 4 years ago this was Woods country. (SBC too) :horse:

If there is one thing that is certain, it's change, nothing stays the same, but until another 4 years pass and something new and better comes along, it's awful hard to beat the Wild Things cams right now.

Mike
Mike52   Tampa Bay,FL
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GoFast.....

Quote from: Mike52 on November 15, 2008, 06:26:07 PM
Quote from: Deye76 on November 15, 2008, 06:18:15 PM
Quote from: ejk_dyna on November 13, 2008, 04:40:00 PM
<<Wood 9B or 9F will take you there as well.>>

...you are correct...just not on this bike...this here is Wild Thing Country   :wink:

For now anyways, subject to change
. 4 years ago this was Woods country. (SBC too) :horse:

If there is one thing that is certain, it's change, nothing stays the same, but until another 4 years pass and something new and better comes along, it's awful hard to beat the Wild Things cams right now.

Mike
I use to run nothing but Wood cams in my bikes and would not consider anything else. They always put up the numbers and never disappointed. The two things that I did not like was the aggressive ramps were hard on the valve train and the noise they make. I started out trying the WT because of Showdogs dyno. I really did not believe they would work and because I did not think you could put those kind of numbers with a 575 in lift and 495 ex lift. I was sure it was just blown up dyno sheet. But my 98" they proved to put up great numbers and so quiet and easy on the valve train. Almost stock quiet. The heads do need to done a little different for the 26 and you need high compression for the good numbers but the cam bleeds so much off on the bottom that most of the time we never have to use the compression releases. It will be interesting how thy do on bigger cubes
Nothing like the Sound of a Harley and the Smell of Rubber

Mike52

November 15, 2008, 08:27:19 PM #29 Last Edit: November 15, 2008, 08:32:19 PM by Fatboy_SirGarfield
 
QuoteI use to run nothing but Wood cams in my bikes and would not consider anything else. They always put up the numbers and never disappointed. The two things that I did not like was the aggressive ramps were hard on the valve train and the noise they make. I started out trying the WT because of Showdogs dyno. I really did not believe they would work and because I did not think you could put those kind of numbers with a 575 in lift and 495 ex lift. I was sure it was just blown up dyno sheet. But my 98" they proved to put up great numbers and so quiet and easy on the valve train. Almost stock quiet. The heads do need to done a little different for the 26 and you need high compression for the good numbers but the cam bleeds so much off on the bottom that most of the time we never have to use the compression releases. It will be interesting how thy do on bigger cubes

Barry, I remember it wasn't that long ago that you would argue your ass off that there was no way the Wild Things cams would perform as well as they did, those that argued the most and loudest were those that hadn't tried them, but as the saying goes, "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em". It's obvious that you are glad you gave them a shot.  :up:

Mike
Mike52   Tampa Bay,FL
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skyhook

November 16, 2008, 04:14:16 AM #30 Last Edit: November 16, 2008, 04:35:48 AM by skyhook
must say since I've been involved with harley performance I've not met anyone nicer and more knowledgeable than mike roland and doug lofgren(even though he's gone his own way now)...haven't talked to bob wright, but I imagine he's a class act as well...I even considered going to work at world class couple year ago when mike was hiring...when we built the wife's bike the '07's had just come out...mike was the first one to say that they needed a lot of added timing when built up...he even looked at my build specs and sent me a timing matrix for power commander...this was after calling ten of the popular tuners on the forums, and most said, "we don't give away maps"...so whenever I hear wild things brought up I feel obliged to chime in, sometimes twice...don't judge wild things by the rest of the gaudy dress-up crap that kuryakyn sells
always seem to get their azz wet?

kevmac

...don't judge wild things by the rest of the gaudy dress-up crap that kuryakyn sells

got that right! I've talked with Bob Wright from R and D perf.also. VERY helpful.
07 RK 103 bob wright heads, wt4d, and so on.
05 custom chop 113ci 10
98 fatbo

jack5hd


POORBOY

Gofast   this bike don't even feel like a bagger now,did some tuneing today :teeth:
Poorboy   Moonshine  TN

Mike52

Ron, I'm expecting an email with the tuning results.............LOL

Mike
Mike52   Tampa Bay,FL
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GoFast.....

Quote from: POORBOY on November 16, 2008, 02:24:55 PM
Gofast   this bike don't even feel like a bagger now,did some tuneing today :teeth:
When can we look to see a dyno sheet on the 103 wt 46
Nothing like the Sound of a Harley and the Smell of Rubber

GoFast.....

Quote from: 05FLHTC on November 16, 2008, 06:19:55 PM
The heads need to be done a little different???

I wonder what exactly that means? Would my 103 running with SE performance heads that have been grooved & worked over by WFO Larry fit the little different spec?  I'm right at 10.7 or little higher CR...Hmmm so WT26 or 46???

I like my HQ33 cam but it would be nice to have options to consider later down the road... 
The 26 needs to flow a little more than usual on the exhaust side but the 46 is a standard intake to exhaust ratio
Nothing like the Sound of a Harley and the Smell of Rubber

GoFast.....

Quote from: POORBOY on November 16, 2008, 07:24:34 PM

When can we look to see a dyno sheet on the 103 wt 46

Put the stock injectors back in and played with the tune, Now I may put the bigger injectors back in since I know were to set the gm/sec,thanks to Herko he figured out were these set so now maybe I can tune them, before I was lost and was getting way to much fuel even with a SERT map so pulled them out was afraid I was going to wash the cylinders before I got a handle on it. I am going to get it close with the Twin Scann and may try to get someone good to tune it, I really would like to see a Dyno run myself,only down side is I may have to build another one so the wife can keep up.

Let me put it like this Gofast,the 26g cams that came out of this bike were still here just in case the 46g was not what I wanted.
1 set WT 26g cams FOR-SALE

[/quote] Do you have a dyno sheet of the 26s in the bike so we can compare them
Nothing like the Sound of a Harley and the Smell of Rubber

POORBOY

Well Gofast the 26g cam is in the bitch, could'nt leave well enough alone,got to see what it does with the 26g, got a feeling the 46 will put the whoop ass on the 26g, I got all week to play,work slow so they give whole week off.
Poorboy   Moonshine  TN

V24me

What would be the right build for the 26 in say a 95"?  What heads, pistons, etc?
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GoFast.....

Quote from: V24me on November 24, 2008, 12:47:02 PM
What would be the right build for the 26 in say a 95"?  What heads, pistons, etc?
Mkie52 is the expert on the 26 95" Build and has posted very impressive dynos. Ask him
Nothing like the Sound of a Harley and the Smell of Rubber

GoFast.....

November 24, 2008, 01:58:37 PM #41 Last Edit: November 24, 2008, 02:01:52 PM by GoFast.....
Quote from: POORBOY on November 24, 2008, 11:59:04 AM
Well Gofast the 26g cam is in the bitch, could'nt leave well enough alone,got to see what it does with the 26g, got a feeling the 46 will put the whoop ass on the 26g, I got all week to play,work slow so they give whole week off.
poorboy, The bigger cam is not always in the lead at 60 ft, and by then I am sure I would have the urge to let off. It reminds me of my son. He had this bike that had more down low and would jump out in front of me and every time I was going to drive by him on the top end he would let off the gas. :sswim:
Littlecam Bigcam
Nothing like the Sound of a Harley and the Smell of Rubber

jaxhog

I have a 107ci with the wt 46g cams with wt heads big flat tq from 2700rpm to 6000rpm
also have an 08 103ci wt 4 cams Bob Wright heads and also tq over 100# from 2700 through 6000.
from my experence with these I would go with whatever Mike or Bob recomended at World class tuning!
I think they are both great guys and they are not going to steer you wrong!  jack

Showdog75

Well Gofast the 26g cam is in the bitch, could'nt leave well enough alone,got to see what it does with the 26g, got a feeling the 46 will put the whoop ass on the 26g, I got all week to play,work slow so they give whole week off.

Ron I hope that isn't gas or indigestion your feeling !   :hyst:

POORBOY

November 24, 2008, 04:52:43 PM #44 Last Edit: November 24, 2008, 06:05:11 PM by POORBOY
I hope that isn't gas or indigestion your feeling !

Could be, I know what the 26 will do in a 95,I'm referring to the 26 in a 103,
Poorboy   Moonshine  TN

Kevin

Quote from: jaxhog on November 24, 2008, 02:50:23 PM
I have a 107ci with the wt 46g cams with wt heads big flat tq from 2700rpm to 6000rpm
also have an 08 103ci wt 4 cams Bob Wright heads and also tq over 100# from 2700 through 6000.
from my experence with these I would go with whatever Mike or Bob recomended at World class tuning!
I think they are both great guys and they are not going to steer you wrong!  jack

Jax, Is there a dyno sheet from your 107" around?

107" by Hyperformance
R&R St. 5 heads
R&R 615's & cam plate R&R roller rocker

GoFast.....

November 24, 2008, 08:34:25 PM #46 Last Edit: November 24, 2008, 08:40:51 PM by GoFast.....
Quote from: POORBOY on November 24, 2008, 04:52:43 PM
I hope that isn't gas or indigestion your feeling !

Could be, I know what the 26 will do in a 95,I'm referring to the 26 in a 103,
This is a John Sachs dyno sheet from the old HTT and I hope he does not mind me posting it for him, One of the most impressive 103 dyno sheets you will see. The 46 tq peaks at 5300 and the HP at 6300, Now thats a big cam to peak at those numbers. If a 26 carries those same Tq numbers through 6000 you are not going to pull away from him until you are in the top gears.That peak is to high for me. I will start with the baby cam and move up if I have to

Nothing like the Sound of a Harley and the Smell of Rubber

jaxhog

Jax, Is there a dyno sheet from your 107" around?

There was on the old site. It was a Bob Wright build, also has Nitrous on it, I don't have a scanner and I'd have to dig for the sheets on it but it was so fast wrapping that I went through 5 or 6 alternator rotors before I found a heavy duty that would stay! I'll try and look up the old dyno sheets on her tomorrow.   jack

Mike52

You gotta love it when you can hit 105tq at 2750rpm, kinda reminds me of a certain 'little' 95".  :hyst:

Mike
Mike52   Tampa Bay,FL
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GoFast.....

Quote from: Mike52 on November 24, 2008, 08:42:14 PM
You gotta love it when you can hit 105tq at 2750rpm, kinda reminds me of a certain 'little' 95".  :hyst:

Mike
Ditto Mike, Do not think you are going to out run that little 26(248 duration) on the bottom end :wink:
Nothing like the Sound of a Harley and the Smell of Rubber