How many wait for engine light to go out before starting ???

Started by sandrooney, November 22, 2008, 01:15:12 PM

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sandrooney

It seems to start quicker on hot starts if I don't wait for the light to go out. Anyone else experience this. I think the owners book says to wait,will it hurt not to? 07 Ultra FI
Thanks,
SR
Patience is such a waste of time .

Faast Ed

You are gonna here two opposing opinions on this string.

Personally, I wait.  I believe the ecm benefits from going thru this cycle, but I can not prove it.
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roadglide65

It will still go through the cycle's if you start it.

I don't think you'll see the police bikes wait till the light goes off to give chase.  :teeth: 

Faast Ed

QuoteYou are gonna here two opposing opinions on this string.

Told ya so,.....       LOL
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HV

It will start if you do not wait with out any issues .. however wile the light is on the ECM is doing " House Cleaning " resetting some things... and checking the MAP ( BARO ) Readings... and ET ....all these can make it start easier..and run cleaner for a few sec ...
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roadglide65

Quote from: Faast Ed on November 22, 2008, 01:27:23 PM
QuoteYou are gonna here two opposing opinions on this string.

Told ya so,.....       LOL

I had to,,, trying to keep it fair and balance you know....LOL  :teeth:

ederdelyi

As far as the ECM is concerned, the motor won't start until the basic initialization sequence is complete ... but that is almost instantaneous. The speedo can be another matter, however. I usually watch the speedo needle, once it "jumps" I'll start the engine and that is usually before the engine light goes out. If you aren't in a rush it won't hurt a thing to wait. If you are, I've never had a motor issue with an instant start, but the speedo can be real "wonky" at low speeds until you shut down and restart.

"You say poetaetow, I say pahtahtoe" :>)

autoworker

04 fuel injected.
I don't watch the light.I listen for the fuel pump to stop running.That's about one second before the light goes out.
It must be true,I read it on the internet.

Sonny S.


calgary56

<-- nope, don't wait, ..... turn the ignition, fire her up, kick it in gear, and off I go, the light is normally off by then :)
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maineultraclassic

I've always waited..........gives the ECM a chance to get ready to roll.

With the DTT auto-tune system you had to wait for the light to blink twice before you start the bike, it really didn't like it if you started without waiting.

Now with the stock ECM and a SERT........I can wait a couple of seconds for the light to go off.

Steve
2005 Ultra Classic
95" Powered by Big Boyz,Woods,Doherty,TTS,Fatcat,Hillside TB

mayor

November 22, 2008, 03:44:32 PM #11 Last Edit: November 22, 2008, 05:55:55 PM by wannabmayor
nope, the mayor waits for no light!  turn the key, hit the starter button, vroom vroom.... :smiled:
warning, this poster suffers from bizarre delusions

PoorUB

Turn on the ignition and start it up! I never wait for the light to go out.
I am an adult?? When did that happen, and how do I make it stop?!

JBarrettB

I always wait...unless I'm late for work. Four seconds can cost you your job!
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HIPPO


03deuce

I always look in the mirror to make sure I look cool, before I hit the start button.   :smiled:

RK101

I'm never in that big of a hurry so I wait. Not that big of a deal. I'm usually putting my helmet/gloves on anyway.
Do not take life too seriously.  You will never get out of it alive.  ~Elbert H

TXChop

Depends on what year the bike is and if it has a powercommander. 07 and later bikes with pciii's i dont wait, all other bikes i wait. Me personally, i just pull the choke out....hahaha

Faast Ed

05, Sandrooney said the same thing.

Any idea why it started easier using that method?
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drgn*95

I've always found mine to start easier halfway through the fuel pump sequence.

sandrooney

Yes my 07 Ultra does start better on hot starts if I don't wait, starts quicker and with a lot less kick back. I just want to make sure it's not going to hurt anything to start it that way. I also would like to know why it starts better ?
Thanks for all the responses,
SR
Patience is such a waste of time .

ClassicRider2002

Simply place your curser over the "http://address / link", click, view, and read:

TOPIC: Ignition Switch On EFI Models-do you wait for light?
http://harleytechtalk.net/htt/index.php?topic=1563.0

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Scooter Trash

Always wait. 07' Ultra, XIED, Krome Werks slip on mufflers and Big Sucker. Starts fine all the time.

cheetah

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Cause it just might be

Deye76

When it's cold I wait. When it's hot I can't wait, or it will kick back, every time. :angry:
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skyhook

definitely depends on whether it's stock motor or built...like has been said, you got high comp, better not wait on hot restarts
always seem to get their azz wet?

Ultrashovel

My bike is a stock 88". It doesn't seem to matter but I usually wait. That period is when the fual pump is pressuring the system and I think it's best to wait but there's apparently no rule on it.

Faast Ed

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definitely depends on whether it's stock motor or built...like has been said, you got high comp, better not wait on hot restarts


I think that pretty much sums it up. It sure is no inconvenience to wait 4 seconds on a motor that has no hotstart issues (unless your job is at stake - LOL).
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Ironpig9

I always wait. And once it's started I wait some more - particularly if it's a cold start. After all, we're all running air cooled engines (just like many of us did when we tooled around in Bug cages) which really, really like to get just a hint of warming before getting hit with some torque. Some habits die hard. Some engines die more quickly.
"The road goes on forever...."

Big Cahuna

I can envision people that don't wait standing in front of their microwave going, C'MON C'mon  I Don't have 20 seconds to wait.,,,,,,,,,

Faast Ed

QuoteI can envision people that don't wait standing in front of their microwave going, C'MON C'mon  I Don't have 20 seconds to wait.,,,,,,,,,

You just described my wife.  Takes the food out before the beep, every time. LOL
Why she don't just set the timer for less.....?
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sandrooney

It's not a matter of the time it takes ,  it's the kickback, and it starts faster.
SR
Patience is such a waste of time .

Willie D

I guess I must be one the waiters  :embarrassed: I do wait for the fuel pump to stop, so Sue Me :hyst:

JMHO :up:
'All gave some, Some gave All"

FLTRI

Since it doesn't matter as far as reliability (you won't hurt the system), go ahead a do whatever works for you...wait or don't wait. Just know there is no need, system function wise, to wait.
The tricks to starting and bikes with high compression and/or large builds which are not tuned properly are invaluable.
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Ken R

When I walk up to the motorcycle to ride, I turn the ignition switch ON. 

By the time I mount and get ready, the light has long-since gone out.  I don't have to wait.

Ken

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IBARider

My '08 is the first FI bike I've owned and I do not wait for light to go out.  In fact, I've always wondered why people so this??  My owners manual DOES NOT say to wait.  It merely states what happens with key on.  The ECM does not have to wait and see what's going on or make adjustments... this happens at the speed of electrons... If it took 2 seconds to figure it out, it wouldn't run properly.  I also wanted to ask if any one does this on their other compusterized vehicles?
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dartman

Sometimes I do and sometimes I dont, on my 04 if I didn.t wait until the speedo needle moved before starting it would work at about half speed,

Rydr2

I wait till the fuel pump stopped.  I don't even woory about the light.  :teeth:

chaos901

When I think about it I wait, sometimes I don't though.  Have not noticed any real difference come to think about it.   
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RoadKingKohn


NitroBerserker

I have a CARB, does it matter if I wait? -- also DTT ign.

frito1

My bike is an '01 FLHT. (carb)  I never paid any attention till one day I thought the speedo had gone south.  It was reading about half speed.  I traced the cause to starting the bike before the lights went out.  I could reproduce the speedo error at will by quick starting.

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