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Power Vision questions

Started by BVHOG, August 16, 2012, 05:47:17 AM

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hdmanillac

Seems to be ok now.

Attached is my level 218 cal for Touring 2009.

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hdmanillac

New Firmware beta 1184 as been released on 09/18/2012.

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Ken R

Quote from: hdmanillac on September 21, 2012, 04:54:24 AM
New Firmware beta 1184 as been released on 09/18/2012.

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New Firmware beta released on 9/28.

hdmanillac

Now the FW is official 2.0.0-1194.

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hdmanillac

Now it's time to learn about EGR.

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LJfxst

i have been having problems getting the auto tune to work come up with NBF0 NBR0 VE+ across the green screen any ideas on how to get these rite i have updated to the latest fw

joe_lyons

October 29, 2012, 08:29:49 PM #156 Last Edit: October 29, 2012, 08:35:09 PM by joe_lyons50023
Assuming that you have set the bike up for basic autotune is it more of decell or when does this happen. Post your map file to be reviewed to better help. Dan from DJ or Fuel moto are more than willing to help.  Also check to update your file through the PV software.
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Valley

Quote from: LJfxst on October 29, 2012, 05:59:14 PM
i have been having problems getting the auto tune to work come up with NBF0 NBR0 VE+ across the green screen any ideas on how to get these rite i have updated to the latest fw
NBFO =narrow band front in open loop
Are you in auto tune basic mode?

LJfxst

October 29, 2012, 09:47:34 PM #158 Last Edit: October 29, 2012, 10:00:35 PM by LJfxst
Quote from: VALLEYRACING on October 29, 2012, 09:23:45 PM
Quote from: LJfxst on October 29, 2012, 05:59:14 PM
i have been having problems getting the auto tune to work come up with NBF0 NBR0 VE+ across the green screen any ideas on how to get these rite i have updated to the latest fw
NBFO =narrow band front in open loop
Are you in auto tune basic mode?
yeah i have followed the instructions on the DJ web site and fuel moto it maybe something in the tune settings i will have a look at the closed loop section of the tune this should change this when it ulters the tune ready for auto tune i thought

joe_lyons

Now is it constantly displaying those or just flashing once in a while b/c as I'm tuning it does this also but still collects data at a good rate.
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HV

Its normal to flash as the bike goes in and out of Closed loop.... or as its warming up and the o2s are not on line yet ..
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tdkkart

"VE:+ Conditions changing too rapidly or moving between VE table cells"

The data is changing too fast to collect good results, try steady speeds, slower accel/decel rates, slower throttle position changes.

Jamie Long

FYI, Dynojet just released some very helpful manuals for the following:

WinPV User Guide  http://www.powercommander.com/downloads/Support-Released/Power%20Vision/Manuals/98100016.07.pdf

Autotune for Power Vision Guide   http://www.powercommander.com/downloads/Support-Released/Power%20Vision/Manuals/PVAutoTune.01.pdf

Quick Tune User Guide   http://www.powercommander.com/downloads/Support-Released/Power%20Vision/Manuals/PVQuickTune.01.pdf

We expect to have our video that goes thru the Auto Tune finished up next week.

LJfxst

Quote from: joe_lyons50023 on October 30, 2012, 07:28:27 AM
Now is it constantly displaying those or just flashing once in a while b/c as I'm tuning it does this also but still collects data at a good rate.
it stays up constant NBF:O  NBR:O the VE + goes away rode for ten mins the other day and no hits

joe_lyons

Either update the tune file or try a different file
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hrdtail78

If the bike is warned up.  Will it record at idle?  No other tables like AE or DE should be involved and you know you holding steady state at idle.
Semper Fi

Valley

Quote from: LJfxst on October 30, 2012, 04:31:19 PM
Quote from: joe_lyons50023 on October 30, 2012, 07:28:27 AM
Now is it constantly displaying those or just flashing once in a while b/c as I'm tuning it does this also but still collects data at a good rate.
it stays up constant NBF:O  NBR:O the VE + goes away rode for ten mins the other day and no hits

You do have your stock NBS plugged in to the stock wiring harness?  No 0/2 eliminators ??  What year bike?

Jamie Long

October 30, 2012, 05:08:36 PM #167 Last Edit: October 30, 2012, 05:10:53 PM by Jamie Long
Quote from: LJfxst on October 30, 2012, 04:31:19 PM
Quote from: joe_lyons50023 on October 30, 2012, 07:28:27 AM
Now is it constantly displaying those or just flashing once in a while b/c as I'm tuning it does this also but still collects data at a good rate.
it stays up constant NBF:O  NBR:O the VE + goes away rode for ten mins the other day and no hits

Please let me know the year/model of your bike as well as which calibration you are running. Also let me know which FW version you have in your PV.

joe_lyons

Or watch your live data and see if the o2 sensors are switching
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LJfxst

October 30, 2012, 08:09:43 PM #169 Last Edit: October 30, 2012, 09:12:18 PM by LJfxst
Quote from: VALLEYRACING on October 30, 2012, 05:00:38 PM
Quote from: LJfxst on October 30, 2012, 04:31:19 PM
Quote from: joe_lyons50023 on October 30, 2012, 07:28:27 AM
Now is it constantly displaying those or just flashing once in a while b/c as I'm tuning it does this also but still collects data at a good rate.
it stays up constant NBF:O  NBR:O the VE + goes away rode for ten mins the other day and no hits

You do have your stock NBS plugged in to the stock wiring harness?  No 0/2 eliminators ??  What year bike?
no eliminators the bike 2012 fxst all wiring  is as it was standard i will try it again today and will post my tune file  if no luck been for a ride still no change fw im useing is the 2.0.0-1197 i loaded a tune from the dynojet web site and tried to auto tune that and it was doing the same saying narrow band  in open loop front and rear

joe_lyons

Your FW maybe up to date but the tune file may not be.  If you have the egr/cde tables then I think it is up to date otherwise on the PV software click on the Powervision tab button at the top and click on update tune with PV and possibly see if that will work.
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Ozbob

Hey fella's
I have just purchased my first PV, I like what I see so far.

Does anyone have some insight to the Charge Dilution Effect option.
What data can we use to calculate the changes required??
Is this function related to cam overlap?? EGR??
I'm in the dark with this one. :doh:
Any help appreciated

Stix.

joe_lyons

Same idea as egr I just followed the same rules as egr for tts.
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Ozbob

Cheers :up:
I thought so.

TTS has a couple of nice little calculators to assist with the EGR function, not sure I am understanding how to use the function with PV, besides trial and error or guesstimating :scratch:
I really need to get an understanding for this, as creating a tune from scratch with big inch, big overlap cam builds, could really benefit from this table.

I also see mention of MAP tooth settings for intake opening and discharge dilution, I do not see those two options in my tune file, is this a later model thing??

joe_lyons

I do wish there was a record feature to show you just the 20-60kpa data to better show you where the CDE woud affect but mabie the later update with the ivo/ivc crank tooth data.  Spoke with Jamie about those 2 tune tables today and he said possibly a winter update.
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