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NHBagger

Quote from: 05fatboy95 on March 19, 2014, 11:03:17 AM
I ran a mikuni 42 on my 107" and it was flawless. I did switch to a 45mm trying to chase a few extra ponies. Set of the pants no difference but the dyno showed 6hp increase. Same dyno.

Do you remember if the torque changed?

jrgreene1968

March 19, 2014, 11:44:31 AM #26 Last Edit: March 19, 2014, 11:46:44 AM by jrgreene1968
Quote from: 05fatboy95 on March 19, 2014, 11:03:17 AM
I ran a mikuni 42 on my 107" and it was flawless
. I did switch to a 45mm trying to chase a few
extra ponies. Set of the pants no difference but
the dyno showed 6hp increase. Same dyno.



How much hp was you able to pull out of the 42 mik?

05fatboy95

March 19, 2014, 12:13:15 PM #27 Last Edit: March 19, 2014, 02:05:24 PM by 05fatboy95
The tq went up 2tq but I figured that could be just the dyno. I had 109hp 126tq before and 115hp/128tq after sae. If my memory serves me right.

In all fairness the first dyno day with the 42 the build was new. Just some heat cycles. I put the 45 on about 2k miles later. I got the 45mm on eBay for $100 and did a rebuild kit. If it wouldn't have been that cheap I wouldn't have done it as the 42mm worked great. Dyno guy did another run, idk what he did (different gear or timing) but it got 119/131 sae on the 42mm but it was just to kinda show me how people can inflate the numbers if some one wanted.

Carl 1969

I'm a fan of the CV. Have had great results with them on 3 bikes, from mild to semi-wild, along with a 4-pack of 'em on my old Kawi ZRX1200R.

Planning on taking my '02 to either 95" or 98" next year, with cam & heads with an emphasis on torque & debating whether a CV44, or Woods 40.5 or 43 would be my best bet.
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jrgreene1968

Quote from: Carl 1969 on March 19, 2014, 06:17:43 PM
I'm a fan of the CV. Have had great results with them on 3 bikes, from mild to semi-wild, along with a 4-pack of 'em on my old Kawi ZRX1200R.

Planning on taking my '02 to either 95" or 98" next year, with cam & heads with an emphasis on torque & debating whether a CV44, or Woods 40.5 or 43 would be my best bet.

I had a good conversation with bobby about his carbs..they have good reviews, and evidently do what he claims..but you better get your checkbook out, cause they aint cheap

twincam8888

But what do I know? I drive a party bus.

05FLHTC

Quote from: Winston Wolf on March 19, 2014, 10:00:29 AM
On this comment, I would disagree.  I've had my Mikuni HSR42 from -200 ft (Death Valley) to 14,110 ft (Pikes Peak) and have never had to adjust the carburetor, it runs flawlessly.  It was perfectly tuned at 1000 ft with a a/f meter.  And!!, I get 44-50+ MPG.  I would put the Mikuni against any other carb, any day.  The Mikuni is the best steet carb, it doesn't feel like a mush bucket when you twist the throttle.

X2  :up: :up:
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Merc63

I had a 48mm mikuni and it was like fuel injection.  I liked it very much, but it was too small or id still be using it.
2000 Dyna
126" S&S

jrgreene1968

Quote from: Merc63 on March 20, 2014, 06:11:17 PM
I had a 48mm mikuni and it was like fuel injection.  I liked it very much, but it was too small or id still be using it.

on the hsr45 and 48..will a se backing plate work, or do you have to use the mikuni air breather setup? I was looking at the hsr45 kits, but cant find anything on whether stage 1 and 2 air breathers work with them

Merc63

Quote from: jrgreene1968 on March 20, 2014, 06:15:16 PM
Quote from: Merc63 on March 20, 2014, 06:11:17 PM
I had a 48mm mikuni and it was like fuel injection.  I liked it very much, but it was too small or id still be using it.

on the hsr45 and 48..will a se backing plate work, or do you have to use the mikuni air breather setup? I was looking at the hsr45 kits, but cant find anything on whether stage 1 and 2 air breathers work with them

I am not sure, never seen an SE plate.  I had a mukini mount that I used.
2000 Dyna
126" S&S

Clayster

Quote from: Carl 1969 on March 19, 2014, 06:17:43 PM
I'm a fan of the CV. Have had great results with them on 3 bikes, from mild to semi-wild, along with a 4-pack of 'em on my old Kawi ZRX1200R.

Planning on taking my '02 to either 95" or 98" next year, with cam & heads with an emphasis on torque & debating whether a CV44, or Woods 40.5 or 43 would be my best bet.
Got a Rebel 43.5 on my 95" Heritage.  Like it a lot.  I own but have never yet run a Mikuni.  Like the Rebel too much to mess with it...

05fatboy95


Quote from: jrgreene1968 on March 20, 2014, 06:15:16 PM
Quote from: Merc63 on March 20, 2014, 06:11:17 PM
I had a 48mm mikuni and it was like fuel injection.  I liked it very much, but it was too small or id still be using it.

on the hsr45 and 48..will a se backing plate work, or do you have to use the mikuni air breather setup? I was looking at the hsr45 kits, but cant find anything on whether stage 1 and 2 air breathers work with them

There is an adapter you can buy to use the SE plate or heavy breather set up.

fidel

March 20, 2014, 08:58:56 PM #37 Last Edit: March 20, 2014, 09:03:07 PM by fidel
lollll looks like  oil tread  myne is better than yoursi av a 98 ci andrews 57 cam wfo larry 2013 stage 1+ head 1.9 intake valve  10 ~1  comp  supertrapp supermeg now with cv 40 in breakin period now 100 milles done not dyno yet   cv 40 in it   always thinkin about enough carb or not mikuni 42 cv 44 woods carb 


Nowhereman

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gsxrboy96

Atleast I didn't mention lectron carbs, I have some of those here in the shop as well !  :chop:
Pick a lane

Nowhereman

Quote from: gsxrboy96 on March 21, 2014, 04:47:44 AM
Atleast I didn't mention lectron carbs, I have some of those here in the shop as well !  :chop:

I remember those.
A friend of mine had one in a box with the Bendix and Holley garbage carbs.
Might be worth some coin later on in a museum.  :hyst:
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05FLHTC

Quote from: jrgreene1968 on March 20, 2014, 06:15:16 PM
Quote from: Merc63 on March 20, 2014, 06:11:17 PM
I had a 48mm mikuni and it was like fuel injection.  I liked it very much, but it was too small or id still be using it.

on the hsr45 and 48..will a se backing plate work, or do you have to use the mikuni air breather setup? I was looking at the hsr45 kits, but cant find anything on whether stage 1 and 2 air breathers work with them

There is an adapter ring that can be fitter to the Mik so you can use the SE backing plate if that's what you are referring to.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/261295454950?lpid=82
Illinois the Corruption Capitol of USA

pwmorris

A properly prepped American made S&S G will smoke a Rice Mikuni (been there, done that/seen that), but a Mikuni is a great all street carb if you can ignore the slide rattle noise...Have no idea what a CV will do and Woods makes a real nice carb but his "King" carb is a King with out a crown-there is only one King and it holds more world records that all other manufacturers combined-

Nowhereman

Quote from: pwmorris on March 21, 2014, 04:00:24 PM
A properly prepped American made S&S G will smoke a Rice Mikuni (been there, done that/seen that), but a Mikuni is a great all street carb if you can ignore the slide rattle noise...Have no idea what a CV will do and Woods makes a real nice carb but his "King" carb is a King with out a crown-there is only one King and it holds more world records that all other manufacturers combined-

Hey PW, long time no see.
To be honest, the guy wants an upgrade for the street, not drag racing.
Can't see an S&S out doing a Mik on the street at all.
What have you been up to.
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speedzter

Quote from: pwmorris on March 21, 2014, 04:00:24 PM
A properly prepped American made S&S G will smoke a Rice Mikuni

Is that with or without thunderjets ?

jrgreene1968

I've considered trying a g..but everything I've read says they suck for gas mileage

pwmorris

Quote from: Nowhereman on March 21, 2014, 05:36:16 PM
Quote from: pwmorris on March 21, 2014, 04:00:24 PM
A properly prepped American made S&S G will smoke a Rice Mikuni (been there, done that/seen that), but a Mikuni is a great all street carb if you can ignore the slide rattle noise...Have no idea what a CV will do and Woods makes a real nice carb but his "King" carb is a King with out a crown-there is only one King and it holds more world records that all other manufacturers combined-

Hey PW, long time no see.
To be honest, the guy wants an upgrade for the street, not drag racing.
Can't see an S&S out doing a Mik on the street at all.
What have you been up to.
How's it going?
Just screwing around-street and local tracks.
Yeah re read my post.....as I said a Mik makes a great street carb, some are annoyed by the slide rattle.
A G can be set up to be a nice street carb.
Running them seven years now on the street-works for me-
No drama but you have to know what you are doing....

mr_natural78

March 21, 2014, 07:41:50 PM #47 Last Edit: March 22, 2014, 07:17:35 AM by mr_natural78
Quote from: 05FLHTC on March 21, 2014, 02:59:58 PM
Quote from: jrgreene1968 on March 20, 2014, 06:15:16 PM
Quote from: Merc63 on March 20, 2014, 06:11:17 PM
I had a 48mm mikuni and it was like fuel injection.  I liked it very much, but it was too small or id still be using it.

on the hsr45 and 48..will a se backing plate work, or do you have to use the mikuni air breather setup? I was looking at the hsr45 kits, but cant find anything on whether stage 1 and 2 air breathers work with them

There is an adapter ring that can be fitter to the Mik so you can use the SE backing plate if that's what you are referring to.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/261295454950?lpid=82

I have one of these adapters on my 113. I used to run a heavy breather but switched to the SE backing plate with zippers filter. Now I'm switching to a Doherty  backing plate with the zippers filter. The hole in those adapters is sized well for a mik42. It is to small for a mik45 or mik48. If you run one you'll want to spend some ttime with a dremel and open it up.
2000 FXDX, 113ci, HTCC CNC heads, 116hp/127tq

Nowhereman

Quote from: pwmorris on March 21, 2014, 07:24:55 PM
Quote from: Nowhereman on March 21, 2014, 05:36:16 PM
Quote from: pwmorris on March 21, 2014, 04:00:24 PM
A properly prepped American made S&S G will smoke a Rice Mikuni (been there, done that/seen that), but a Mikuni is a great all street carb if you can ignore the slide rattle noise...Have no idea what a CV will do and Woods makes a real nice carb but his "King" carb is a King with out a crown-there is only one King and it holds more world records that all other manufacturers combined-

Hey PW, long time no see.
To be honest, the guy wants an upgrade for the street, not drag racing.
Can't see an S&S out doing a Mik on the street at all.
What have you been up to.
How's it going?
Just screwing around-street and local tracks.
Yeah re read my post.....as I said a Mik makes a great street carb, some are annoyed by the slide rattle.
A G can be set up to be a nice street carb.
Running them seven years now on the street-works for me-
No drama but you have to know what you are doing....

True, it you want something enough you'll find a way to make it work.
I'm still running Miks and have no issues with em.
Never got the chance to play with a Guppy pipe though.
RB is easier to get a hold of.
I'm sketching up a new primary casing to be able to deal with a compensator / tensioner I have ideas on.
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DEW



on the hsr45 and 48..will a se backing plate work, or do you have to use the mikuni air breather setup? I was looking at the hsr45 kits, but cant find anything on whether stage 1 and 2 air breathers work with them
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YES, Im using a SE backing plate with a 48.