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Started by moose, January 11, 2015, 06:28:07 AM

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moose

probably something that most don't use on there bike but what the hell its there might as well use it. So my question is has anyone added a liner amp to boost the cb signal that will work on a bike. I remember when driving a truck I had like a 100 watt unit just looking to tweek a little and not be stomped on for the bike

of course this would be hypothetical cause they are not legal :)
Moose aka Glenn-

Redfish Joe

Most cb linears would cause too high of a drain on the electrical system I would think. 

Coyote

I think the bike electrical would be fine for a 100 watt linear (Have you seen the size of amps these audio guys are using?). The issue I see is that unless everyone you ride with does the same, you will still be limited to the same, stock distance. Doesn't do much good for them to hear you and you can't hear them.

The other issue is the crappy antenna system on the bike. It's not a big deal to reflect back half the power when the transmitter is 4 watts. Pretty easy to survive that. But if you did the same at 100W, the amp is going to heat up, a lot. Possibly fail.  I know when I tuned my bikes, everything in and around the bike pulls the antenna tuning. It will shift based on what is in your tour pack, if you have a passenger etc. That's just the nature when you have such a poor ground plane at 27MHz.

moose

thanks was curious if anyone is running any and what
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IronMike113

WOW I can see it Now a Texas Star 350 High Drive on my Scooter,with the galaxy 99,I could actually get out and talk to somebody talk about putting some fire in the wire..........  :potstir:
2 Bikes and 2 Beemers, that's what I have been told 😳

strokerjlk

You would be better off opening up the modulation on the radio . Then cranking it up to dead key 2 watt and swing 10-12 watts . Or Whatever you can get of if it .
Find a good radio tech that can get the schematic .
I would be scarred to drive a linear for lack of good ground like Keith said. 
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moose

I have the schematic somewhere guess I'll get a swr meter and give it a try  have not played with a cb since my truck driving days 40 years ago
Moose aka Glenn-

strokerjlk

Quote from: moose on January 12, 2015, 03:58:59 AM
I have the schematic somewhere guess I'll get a swr meter and give it a try  have not played with a cb since my truck driving days 40 years ago
Post it up. maybe together we can all figure it out. your gonna need a power meter also.
i haven't turned any up for a few years myself. I can tune the cobra's and Galaxy's .
getting the modulation cranked up is the biggest gain
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strokerjlk


search around on the net. your looking for something like this
I got mine at 6-8 watts now. but I cant find the notes. i just  played with the VR's until i found what i wanted. never could figure out the modulation diode though.

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moose

Moose aka Glenn-

Durwood


strokerjlk


i received the same photo
i cant see it. but I assume that is the VR we are looking for.
is that for modulation or power ?





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strokerjlk

never mind .i opened the link duh . :embarrassed:
modulation :up:
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Coyote

 I took that picture for someone here a few months ago. Yes, the control I marked was modulation. This info was from their FCC filing.

Coyote


strokerjlk

any more info. i think I only got 70 % modulation adjusting. were is the diode you clip to open modulation WOT
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zukeepr

January 13, 2015, 06:34:14 PM #16 Last Edit: January 13, 2015, 06:37:26 PM by zukeepr
You could put bigger finals in it. Maybe run a modulator instead of linear. It don't draw as many amps and don't get near as hot. To bad you can't put an echo board it. Rodknocker,come on beck!!! As stated earlier antenna would be the biggest problem. Swr's would kill that little radio. I have to hear the cry baby's and Rambo's all week. Thats the last thing I wanna hear on my bike.
Lead,follow, or stay on the porch

Coyote

Quote from: strokerjlk on January 13, 2015, 06:20:46 PM
any more info. i think I only got 70 % modulation adjusting. were is the diode you clip to open modulation WOT

And how did you measure modulation Percentage?

strokerjlk

Quote from: Coyote on January 13, 2015, 06:38:40 PM
Quote from: strokerjlk on January 13, 2015, 06:20:46 PM
any more info. i think I only got 70 % modulation adjusting. were is the diode you clip to open modulation WOT

And how did you measure modulation Percentage?
old old I know ,but it is still working

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strokerjlk

ha ha notice where the power level is set  :chop:
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strokerjlk

Quote from: zukeepr on January 13, 2015, 06:34:14 PM
You could put bigger finals in it. Maybe run a modulator instead of linear. It don't draw as many amps and don't get near as hot. To bad you can't put an echo board it. Rodknocker,come on beck!!! As stated earlier antenna would be the biggest problem. Swr's would kill that little radio. I have to hear the cry baby's and Rambo's all week. Thats the last thing I wanna hear on my bike.
if you open the modulation up ,you do the same as installing a modulator. unless you have a external potentiometer ,then you could control modulation.
used to do the same thing with the cobra's using the mic gain as the potentiometer . nice little 40 ch radios.
you can turn em down and drive a big linear,or crank em up to swing 20 watts easy. some 25 and 29 early cobras would dead key 2-12 watts and swing  28-30 watts.
the more you crank them up the better the finals need to be. cobras were fine stock. all my Galaxies had to be replaced once you crank them up.
my galaxie will swing 40 watts bare foot on high.they just were not built to push that much power.
use low and drive a linear they are fine. i have my low set at 2/2 mid 2/12 and high level at 2/40.
i can drive a 1K at 2/2 and never heat things up. drive it at 2/12 and it needs to cool here and there.
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repeated testing establishes theory

IronMike113

That's a big 10-4 ROGER BEEP...........  :oops:
2 Bikes and 2 Beemers, that's what I have been told 😳

moose

ok now who can tweek a harley cb to make it work even with the antenna drawback.
Moose aka Glenn-

zukeepr

Me,me,me....let me grab my tools. Let's see,hammer,screwdriver,butter knife(for the screws holding the lid on),Marlboro, coat hanger for replacement antenna. OK, I think I'm ready.
Lead,follow, or stay on the porch

moose

it's in the mail to you along with the check    :emoGroan:
Moose aka Glenn-