2014 - 2015 Bike Needed (Local to Houston Area ONLY) Free Equipment and Install

Started by UltraNutZ, February 27, 2015, 06:03:17 AM

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UltraNutZ

I have an idea :idea:  that Bill and I have been discussing but I need a test bike local to me in the Houston area.. here's my stipulations and request.  PM only.

       
  • 2014/2015 (2) speaker bike ONLY (if this works then I'll do the same thing with a 4 speaker setup afterwards)
  • Roadie or Batwing doesn't matter
  • 6.5 or 4.3 infotainment.
  • radio MUST NOT BE FLASHED other than stock flash as it came from the factory.  This is VERY important as I need an unmolested audio setup as it comes from HD.
  • and finally MUST be able to leave bike with me for 2 days for full testing (1 day to install, 1 day to test/document).  I cannot have someone show up and expect to leave on their bike the same day.  It simply doesn't give me enough time to test things fully.
  • In return, you will get (1) PBR300x2 amp, (1) set of Infinity Kappa 62.11i speakers, and installation, all free of charge and your's to keep regardless whether the test works or not.
I'm not 100% sure my test will work so you need to also understand/expect that if it doesn't work as I expect it to, you (i don't ride other people's bikes unless motor work is performed) will need to bring the bike to the dealer to have it flashed once you pick it up.  No exceptions to the above.  if you don't agree with ALL of the above, don't bother contacting me.

*NOTE*
No modifications to stock wiring will be performed.  Everything will be plug n play and easily removed later on if you desire to do so.
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AAWAV

I cannot repeat this enough - Nutz is THE MAN... I "talk" to him on a very regular base and I would drive my over (on a trailer lol) if I had a 2014-2015, but I do not (Lucky me).
Nutz, I am donating money towards the free audio setup to support the HD audio "world". I will email you. we got to sort this out once and for all. Thanks for doing this.


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UltraNutZ

no funds right now please.  Let's see if this works first then I'll be glad to charge everyone for my knowledge!   :hyst: :hyst: :hyst: :hyst:
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shagyluke

All I can say is WOW!! what a deal. Wish I lived closer and this had happened about a month ago. I might have even shipped my bike from Vegas. Thanks for doing this UN.
"I say Grace, and I say Ma'am, If you aint in to that I don't give a damn.

maverick2076

UN,

I've got a guy for you with a 2014 SGS who will be your test bike.  He lives in Rosenberg and is in my wife's Club.  I sent you a PM on HD Forums.  If you can send me your phone number, I'll get him in touch with you.

Gannicus

Quote from: AAWAV on February 27, 2015, 07:59:02 AM
I cannot repeat this enough - Nutz is THE MAN... I "talk" to him on a very regular base and I would drive my over (on a trailer lol) if I had a 2014-2015, but I do not (Lucky me).
Nutz, I am donating money towards the free audio setup to support the HD audio "world". I will email you. we got to sort this out once and for all. Thanks for doing this.
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Totally agree! If NUTZ and Bill can't get figured out. Rushmore bikes will be at the mercy of HD forever!

UltraNutZ

update.. donor bike/owner found.  Thanks maverick2076.

Don, aka Left - will be the donor.
2014 SGS with 6.5 Infotainment.
Waiting on a couple of parts to come in.  when they do I'll get Left over to commence the testing.  And the bonus for me is Left has another bike so I'm not limited to 2 days if need be.   :up:


Stay tuned hopefully for positive results.
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shagyluke

Rt on... Great news. Hope you are able to get something figured out. Thanks Todd
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Bertk

Ride Safe, Bert
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moose

now I'm thinking you should do the same for an older bike  like a 2011 limited    how about that i have one 

and then it should be a road trip to the east coast (new jersey)  It just so happens I would be happy to volunteer my bike for the free test and free equipment and even supply the heated garage to work in and a place to stay

i know i know its very nice of me        just sayin
Moose aka Glenn-

HD Doobie

This is AWESOME news!  Thanks for doing this UN, Bill, Left!  Just one small request...  Any chance you could do some testing on weather having the speakers mounted inside or outside the pods affects sound quality? 

UltraNutZ

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They need to be changed for the same reasons

Bertk

Ride Safe, Bert
2015 FLHTK & 2008 FLHX

UltraNutZ

hopefully this weekend I can line it up if the damn BA grills ever get here...
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luc.who

Kewl! 
Nutz, I love my new to me CVO, but miss the stereo I had in my 2010 FLHX.  Thanks for doing this ! 

HD Doobie

Any updates on this?  Not trying to be a pain, just really curious on your results!

Sprint07

I'm real curious now also.  Received my speaker boxes for the lowers on my '14 Ultra along with my BikeTronics stuff.

I've been scared to even attempt to do this install until something gets figured out.  Would really hate to have the bike completely torn apart to install to find out that the BikeTronics won't perform as advertised and I've spent a ton of money on it.

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2014 Electra Glide Ultra

shagyluke

Quote from: Sprint07 on March 18, 2015, 08:28:08 PM
I'm real curious now also.  Received my speaker boxes for the lowers on my '14 Ultra along with my BikeTronics stuff.

I've been scared to even attempt to do this install until something gets figured out.  Would really hate to have the bike completely torn apart to install to find out that the BikeTronics won't perform as advertised and I've spent a ton of money on it.

If you have a 15 RG. I can tell you that the 4180 and the 62.11i's on mine rock. Even without treble and base control it sounds 1000* better than stock. My buddies riding in front of me that are on Dynas tell me they can hear my stereo while they are in front of me. You wont be disappointed from what you have (Stock) going to the BT equipment. Just my .02
"I say Grace, and I say Ma'am, If you aint in to that I don't give a damn.

UltraNutZ

Quote from: HD Doobie on March 18, 2015, 02:59:34 PM
Any updates on this?  Not trying to be a pain, just really curious on your results!

Surdyke BO-d the damn grills.  I want to wait til I get them in just in case I need to install speakers on outside of pods.

Much as I hate to do it, I might just grab a set of grills from Cycle Sounds
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AAWAV

Quote from: shagyluke on March 18, 2015, 08:43:07 PM
Quote from: Sprint07 on March 18, 2015, 08:28:08 PM
I'm real curious now also.  Received my speaker boxes for the lowers on my '14 Ultra along with my BikeTronics stuff.

I've been scared to even attempt to do this install until something gets figured out.  Would really hate to have the bike completely torn apart to install to find out that the BikeTronics won't perform as advertised and I've spent a ton of money on it.

If you have a 15 RG. I can tell you that the 4180 and the 62.11i's on mine rock. Even without treble and base control it sounds 1000* better than stock. My buddies riding in front of me that are on Dynas tell me they can hear my stereo while they are in front of me. You wont be disappointed from what you have (Stock) going to the BT equipment. Just my .02

that was me they heard, not you LMAO....
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UltraNutZ

Politicians are like diapers.
They need to be changed for the same reasons

shagyluke

Quote from: AAWAV on March 19, 2015, 09:05:36 AM
Quote from: shagyluke on March 18, 2015, 08:43:07 PM
Quote from: Sprint07 on March 18, 2015, 08:28:08 PM
I'm real curious now also.  Received my speaker boxes for the lowers on my '14 Ultra along with my BikeTronics stuff.

I've been scared to even attempt to do this install until something gets figured out.  Would really hate to have the bike completely torn apart to install to find out that the BikeTronics won't perform as advertised and I've spent a ton of money on it.

If you have a 15 RG. I can tell you that the 4180 and the 62.11i's on mine rock. Even without treble and base control it sounds 1000* better than stock. My buddies riding in front of me that are on Dynas tell me they can hear my stereo while they are in front of me. You wont be disappointed from what you have (Stock) going to the BT equipment. Just my .02

that was me they heard, not you LMAO....

Oh yeah I forgot..You were in the back!!! :hyst: :hyst:
"I say Grace, and I say Ma'am, If you aint in to that I don't give a damn.

tdgriff

Nutz you are the man. I have guys by me that that want what I have but can't get it with the new bikes. Thank for looking into this.

HD Doobie

I did some testing the last couple days and have a write up in the audio section on the other forum titled "2014 SGS Magic Box Testing".

Thought maybe it would help with "The Project"

shagyluke

how about coping and pasting it here on the forum so we don't have to go looking for it???? I can tell you without reading it that I'm really not interested in using a magic box on my bike.. Thats just me and others might have different views.
"I say Grace, and I say Ma'am, If you aint in to that I don't give a damn.

HD Doobie

**UPDATE**

Today I installed the speakers on the outside of the pods, just like stock, and tested with and without the magic box, and also tested with and without the pods all together.....

I never would have thought it, but it is MUCH better with the speakers on the outside! Much more fullness and no more hollowness. Before they sounded like they were in a box, not anymore! Above poster is correct, night and day difference!

In my opinion, the pods work. I had one speaker mounted to the pod and had a helper hold the other in the free air up the the speaker opening and there was way more sound and fullness with the pod. Granted, having the fairing back on and maybe some polyfill wrapped on the open air speaker would probably help, but I really think the pod helps, at least with the Kappas. A higher quality speaker and amp combo could change that...

Once I determined I wanted the speakers back in the stock location I then started testing the magic box. This was a very tough call, but I would say it's still better with the box.

Without the magic box gains above 6 things start to get garbled, and I couldn't turn it up quite as loud. Put the box back in and the gain can go back up to 9, and I can go louder and turn the bass up. Seems like the box filters out the real low boomy bass.

I am now running without grills so I have been playing with the +3 db on the tweeters. That seems to change with song selection so that's still up in the air.

I didn't do any road testing so all my results are with the bike off and in the garage.

I would say I am now very close to my friend's 13 Ultra with same equipment. Now I want to get them side by side. The weather is supposed to be shitty the next week so I am going to start installing the reduced reach bars so that and some road testing will have to wait.
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shagyluke

"I say Grace, and I say Ma'am, If you aint in to that I don't give a damn.

UltraNutZ

Politicians are like diapers.
They need to be changed for the same reasons

shagyluke

Quote from: UltraNutZ on March 30, 2015, 01:07:02 PM
no update yet.  Still waiting on the damn grills..

OKay, well maybe I am confused as to what you are researching and trying to find out. I was under the impression that you were going to be trying to figure out something on the flash and update side of the aftermarket install's. Grills really have no barring on that. If you don't mind? what exactly are you trying to get accomplished with this?

Thanks

AV
"I say Grace, and I say Ma'am, If you aint in to that I don't give a damn.

UltraNutZ

not doing the install until I have everything in hand.  Don't think Left would be too pleased if he came all the way over here and I sent him home with holes in his fairing. 

going to setup low level inputs to the amp with a bandpass filter in the mix.
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HD Doobie

I did another small test today.  I connected my laptop directly to the amp using a 3.5mm to RCA cable to completely eliminate the head unit.  It sounded horrible, very flat.  Not sure why.  Too low of voltage on the RCA's?  I was using windows media player and even played with the EQ settings.... no help.  :nix:

4nic8

Might have been too low, I've used a 3.5 to RCA from an iPhone direct in and made sure the the headphone volume was on max and it sounded fantastic streaming pandora and playing from iTunes. This is why I know my problem is these head units

fallenhillbilly

I have tried alot of flash combinations and so far the best I can come up with is amp 1&2 on 8 speakers .when you get it tuned it doesn't sound half bad but it is still liking what the 2012 could do riding. .never had any trouble hearing that one..4 on the volume scale is like 8 on this new one..its like the radio is not pushing the same power..set my amps with the volt meter. 3/4 volume would not get me my voltage even with amp full on.2012 bike 3/4 volume amp 2 o'clock. guess I can just turn it up more on the scale before clipping

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