Rebuild time for the touring pig

[PoorUB]

How did it work? I cut up a socket to torque the compression releases and it flexed so bad it was unusable. I welded a strip of steel across the opening, far enough out so it would still fit over the release.

[Coyote]

It's pretty stiff.  We'll see when I install them. 

[No Cents]

 years ago I took an old socket and made me an ACR removal/install tool.
I removed less material in the center section of mine and it has worked great. It's not pretty...but it does the job.

Ray

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[Just Nick]

How did it work? I cut up a socket to torque the compression releases and it flexed so bad it was unusable. I welded a strip of steel across the opening, far enough out so it would still fit over the release.

I have the same problem with the screamin beagle socket I have thanks for the idear about the strip o steel. You mind posting a pic?

[PoorUB]

How did it work? I cut up a socket to torque the compression releases and it flexed so bad it was unusable. I welded a strip of steel across the opening, far enough out so it would still fit over the release.

I have the same problem with the screamin beagle socket I have thanks for the idear about the strip o steel. You mind posting a pic?

Ya, I mind!
No time now, maybe later, but I took a thin strip and rolled it to match the OD of the socket and tacked it across the opening, at the end of the socket. You need to be careful and make sure the comp release with fit through, plus small enough to clear the casting on the head.

[prodrag1320]

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no reason to hog out the socket so much,just mill a slot down the side.no weakness then

[Coyote]

Unfortunately that won't work with the CRs I have. They have a bump out and that bump out is not in the same position relative to the hex end from unit to unit. That's why I removed more material.

[prodrag1320]

Unfortunately that won't work with the CRs I have. They have a bump out and that bump out is not in the same position relative to the hex end from unit to unit. That's why I removed more material.

what ACR`s do you have? mine works with all but S&S units (that ive ran into anyway).you have to put the socket on,mark where the "bump" is and mill the slot there

[chopperdawg]

Go with the Timkens,Trust me!!!

[Coyote]

I'm using the HD ones. Here is a pic of the issue. You can see that the bulge that must be clearanced for is not in the same position from one unit to the next.

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Harleys tool also does the same

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[prodrag1320]

hmmn,use mine on a bunch (like 100`s ) of HD ACR`s,never ran into that problem

[Don D]

A standard socket with a milled slot in the side does it. I made a few of then. The ACRs need to be tighter than Harleys spec and to do that the band at the bottom remains solid not open. Cant post photo

[Coyote]

I got a PM asking for some more pics of the case work. So here are a few from today.

First remove the retaining clip from the sprocket side.



Remove the seal.



Press the bearing out.





Pretty much the same on the other half, just two retaining screws and no seal.

[JC 92FXRS]

Are the cases coated on the inside as well? ...or is that just the lighting fooling me.
Jeff

[1FSTRK]

Unfortunately that won't work with the CRs I have. They have a bump out and that bump out is not in the same position relative to the hex end from unit to unit. That's why I removed more material.

what ACR`s do you have? mine works with all but S&S units (that ive ran into anyway).you have to put the socket on,mark where the "bump" is and mill the slot there

Just ran into that a while back. I do not know the exact date that Harley started installing the new style but I spoke with Vic and he said he modified his socket over a year ago when he ran into it. Had to be cheaper to not have the top indexed to the base.

[Coyote]

Unfortunately that won't work with the CRs I have. They have a bump out and that bump out is not in the same position relative to the hex end from unit to unit. That's why I removed more material.

what ACR`s do you have? mine works with all but S&S units (that ive ran into anyway).you have to put the socket on,mark where the "bump" is and mill the slot there

Just ran into that a while back. I do not know the exact date that Harley started installing the new style but I spoke with Vic and he said he modified his socket over a year ago when he ran into it. Had to be cheaper to not have the top indexed to the base.

There is no way just a slot would have worked on the two I had. Thanks for confirming I'm not nuts. lol

[prodrag1320]

Are the cases coated on the inside as well? ...or is that just the lighting fooling me.
Jeff

HD power coats the whole thing before any machining (just like with the heads)

[JC 92FXRS]

Are the cases coated on the inside as well? ...or is that just the lighting fooling me.
Jeff

HD power coats the whole thing before any machining (just like with the heads)

Thanks, I guess that would make sense production wise. Pretty sure my old EVO isn't like that (I've never been in the cases), it's just painted.
Cheers, jeff

[Coyote]

Pressing in a new right side main bearing.





And new piston oilers and inner cam bearings.

[Knox_Nate]

Love the thread. What it must be like to have this knowledge and ability to do this!!!!

[HD/Wrench]

Very nice thread. Step by step very easy to follow. I like it..

[mattVA]

And new piston oilers and inner cam bearings.

When sealing the cases do you apply the sealant to the flat surfaces of the right case half using your finger or a brush, around bolt holes and dowel pins?

[Don D]

Many opinions for sure..
I use a foam swab and loctite 518

[Coyote]

A few more pics from today. Jim was nice enough to stop by today and made sure I did not miss any steps in the bottom end re assembly. Always nice to have an expert as a safety net when experience is limited as mine is.   


Here is the Timken sleeve already pressed in and the oil holes and holes for the flange screws drilled. Ready to tap.



Flange screws installed and the races have been pressed in.



End play set at 0.002"



Pressing the bearing onto the crankshaft.



Applying the case sealant.



Case bolts installed and torqued down.

[Thumper Buttercup]

Coyote,

Really enjoying the work with all the pictures.


Thanks


Mark & Kim