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Cyclesolutionsonline.com Boxoflube.com Dimple Magnetic Drain Plug Demo.MOD

Interesting,  anyone have one of them? Would be interesting to hear if people see alot of difference in the collection on the drain plugs when changing oils, it sure looks like it would collect more particles. I like the idea of the magnets around the oil filter but figure someone would walk away with them when your bike is parked somewhere.

I'm thinking that by the time the "super special extra-strength magnetic magnet" collects all of the metal in that bottle, your engine won't care. It'll be DOA.

It's a nice demo of how strong a magnet can be, but what's the point? Being able to read a part number on a chunk of metal is a sure sign of engine wear, but if something is coming apart, it's not going to matter what magnet is in there.

I think the idea would be to have a strong enough draw to collect as many small fragments as possible so not to have them flow through the engine making larger problems if the filter did not get them all. In the event you did see a large metal chip you could take action before the engine had an oil pump, lifter problem etc.. before a total engine failure. Auto companys have been putting magnets in the bottom of transmission oil pans for many years to help extend the life of the transmissions.

I can't see the point of using those strong magnets when there is a really nice oil filter fitted...
I would gladly have fitted one on many an old Brit bike with pathetic oil filtration though!
And if I can get them easily in the UK I am very tempted to put them in the FL and Sportster transmissions.

I dont see anything wrong with the stock plug and magnet.  I have never had much of anything on mine when I have changed oil, even after my new build.  A few very small flecks was all.  But, I cleaned everything very well before install.

I really dont see the value of these plugs, but thats just me.

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I don't know why they even put a magnet on the drain plug of the TCB motor, then put the plug on the end of an 8" tube where no oil circulates. I attached a magnet to the end of my dipstick where it is submerged in CIRCULATING oil where, if anything happens to be floating around, the magnet will find it.

 

They have them for trans and primary to.  Seems the primary wouldn't be that bad of a idea to collect the particles.

I thought the magnets worked since the metal was heavier than the oil and would settle to the low spot in the pan where the magnet would hold it when the engine wasn't running.  I think it would have to be a very strong magnet that could grab particles out of a flowing viscous fluid like oil at the velocity the oil is going through the oil filter.  Of course, I might be wrong too.     

I've got a really strong little horseshoe magnet.  It's got a shorting bar on it for storage, which renders it almost completely useless as a magnet.

I doubt there's appreciable magnetic flux available for any purpose whatsoever inside the can when a magnet is placed on the exterior of an oil filter housing.  It would probably help trip traffic lights more than anything.  Hahaha!

The primary, the trans may be, I could see how it might work. If not work at least give you that warm fuzzy feeling that your doing some thing, but for the motor? Why keep stuff from getting caught by the filter  what if it just gets caught by the magnet just to sluff off later thrash around and then get caught by the magnet again and repeat  I don't want to sound like I am poo pooing the whole thing, I am just not sold on the idea.  I am poo pooing the magnets on the filter thing though, it's a filter that's what it does.

Heh - remember, magnets attract steel. Not aluminum, magnesium, bronze, plastic, leather or rubber... steel. I don't think they can hurt, but I wouldn't bother. Just change your oil and filter.

I don't know why they put a magnet on the primary drain. There's already a bunch of much bigger magnets in there. (the rotor). Besides, the primary drain plug magnets can break off.

I would never ride without one of them magnets. Last time I did an oil change, I found a piston pin, 2 lifters, a bottle cap and a 3/4" box wrench attached to the drain bolt.  Gives your motor a lot better protection. 

Man,

That's the funniest advertisement I've seen since the superbowl.. Max

Just thread it, and forget it.

Quote from: tdrglide on May 04, 2010, 02:07:35 PM
I don't know why they put a magnet on the primary drain. There's already a bunch of much bigger magnets in there. (the rotor). Besides, the primary drain plug magnets can break off.

How come the little HD plug with magnet always has metal debris on it?

Quote from: harleytoprock on May 04, 2010, 07:36:55 PM
I would never ride without one of them magnets. Last time I did an oil change, I found a piston pin, 2 lifters, a bottle cap and a 3/4" box wrench attached to the drain bolt.  Gives your motor a lot better protection. 

i think the little magnets on the ends of the plugs are great, and a cheap non moving item that helps remove ferrousc particles.  it is also an indication of how many and what size are being created.  i always wipe mine off and reinstall.  do we need more, i dint think so, on the outside of the filter, not a good place because oil is traveling at a velocity at that time.  the bottom of the sumps is the best place.  if they did not come stock from the factory i am not sure i would buy them.  maybe because they are cheap.  and do some good.  like the previously mentioned ones in the auto transmission .  also they are like chicken soup for a cold, what harm can they do?

You can buy an awful lot of chicken soup for $35!!

Skip

Quote from: sonicskip on May 05, 2010, 09:54:54 PM
You can buy an awful lot of chicken soup for $35!!

Skip

Even in Socal.

Just changed my oil from last season  [I was very lazy]   and found very small flecks of metal on the stock drain plug. Cut the filter apart and found more pieces of shiney metal. Long story short story the rollers on the lifters were flaking off. 350 .00 dollars later, not a 1000.00 we are close to being back on the road.  We are waiting for two o rings, O WELL,,,Any way I believe in magnets and have had one on the outside of the filter since the bike was new  ,04, .   Just my .02 worth....John  

Quote from: Topend97 on May 02, 2010, 05:13:15 AM
Interesting,  anyone have one of them? Would be interesting to hear if people see alot of difference in the collection on the drain plugs when changing oils, it sure looks like it would collect more particles. I like the idea of the magnets around the oil filter but figure someone would walk away with them when your bike is parked somewhere.

I have experienced one (1) oil change with the Dimple oil plug. On my 15,000 mile service on stock oil plug I got NO metal on plug. And all changes after the same. I learned about these stronger magnet drain plugs after my 45,000 mile service. I went ahead and changed to the stronger plug magnet between 45,000 - 50,000 service, at 50,000 mile service I got just a little shavings on plug.. To me it was better than original as on stock one at 15,000 mile service it was clean with stock plug.. Wish I learned sooner on the stronger plug magnet...  Hope this helps... 

Quote from: PanHeadRed on May 05, 2010, 09:06:38 AM
Just thread it, and forget it.

And if you call now, we'll double your order, just pay S&H.