Power Vision questions

[rbabos]

I'm confused, again.
There is mention of a LOG VIEWER.  It never came on the cd. Do I need to download this program as well. All I got was the WinPV.
Ron

PV Log Tuner software is available from http://www.dynojet.com/PowerVision/powervision-software-firmware-downloads.aspx?ProdType=Power%20Vision, however I highly recommend using the newer Auto Tune/log tuning features right on the PV display. You can view live data and hits right on the PV screen including +/- % correction, corrected VE, and you also have the ability to apply corrections directly to your calibration. Both Dynojet and Fuel Moto are working on videos that go over this process. There is documentation that goes thru the automated tuning process at http://www.powercommander.com/downloads/Support-Released/Power%20Vision/Manuals/PVAutoTune.01.pdf

Thanks Jammie. Found it on the web site prior to your post.
Ron

[rbabos]

What does that little red button do on the right top side of the unit do?
Ron

The red button puts the unit in bootloader/recovery mode. This is generally not used.

So, how and when does it come into play. In all honesty, I did poke at it a couple of times to see what it did when I was hooked up to the pc.  Nothing happened that I could see.
Ron

[joe_lyons]

Now i cant remember for sure but i remember when i installed my first one when they came out and then shortly there after they had a critical update and i used it when i did that update.

[hdmanillac]

Just a suggestion of improvement :

Would it be possible to access "accel enrichment multiplier" and "decel enleanment multiplier" from quick tune ?

Just like "idle rpm ader".

[rbabos]

Just a suggestion of improvement :

Would it be possible to access "accel enrichment multiplier" and "decel enleanment multiplier" from quick tune ?

Just like "idle rpm ader".

These are all accessable once the cal is imported from the unit to WinPV.
Ron

[joe_lyons]

I think he was talking about just from the unit.

[Kblhd]

I am a new user of the PV. Just purchased it from FM. I have used the setup menu and made new files for tunes, stock, log but I am having trouble saving a tune to the tune file. When I click on save it comes up as Power Vision not Tunes. Any suggestions? 

[hdmanillac]

I think he was talking about just from the unit.

You're right ! Quick Tune is made to set up the map directely from the unit.

[Fire-Medic]

I am a new user of the PV. Just purchased it from FM. I have used the setup menu and made new files for tunes, stock, log but I am having trouble saving a tune to the tune file. When I click on save it comes up as Power Vision not Tunes. Any suggestions?

You can name it whatever you want and save it in the folder of your choice. You have to make sure the file you want to save is the one that is active, then click file, save as, and when the window pops up, you pick what file to save it to and you can name it whatever you would like.

[rbabos]

Reading on how to set up autotune and ran accross something . It says if you have a v rod that the temp settings need to be changed. Any idea on what the numer in C should be to put in there? Secondly, ok,  so I do it and run an autotune session, export the file, reload it and choose another autotune session on this file, do I need to set the temp again or does it remember?
Ron

[joe_lyons]

It remembers unless you use a different map

[rbabos]

It remembers unless you use a different map

Thanks.
Ron

[joe_lyons]

And i think the vrod would ne ok with the temps set at 75 to 115 or so

[hrdtail78]

Reading on how to set up autotune and ran accross something . It says if you have a v rod that the temp settings need to be changed. Any idea on what the numer in C should be to put in there? Secondly, ok,  so I do it and run an autotune session, export the file, reload it and choose another autotune session on this file, do I need to set the temp again or does it remember?
Ron

Vrods have different temps.   

"4.6.
Collecting VTune Data
Once the vehicle is warmed up and ready, all the indicators will turn green and you are ready to ride and collect your VTune data. The "green" temperature will vary based on the model that is selected:
•
Big Twin = 75 to 155 °C (167 to 311 °F)
•
VRSC = 85 to 120 °C (185 to 248 °F)
•
Sportster = 145 to 230 °C (293 to 446 °F)"

Read over your TTS manual and set the temps to what it suggests.  Like we have talked about before.  More cells, with less room.

[rbabos]

Reading on how to set up autotune and ran accross something . It says if you have a v rod that the temp settings need to be changed. Any idea on what the numer in C should be to put in there? Secondly, ok,  so I do it and run an autotune session, export the file, reload it and choose another autotune session on this file, do I need to set the temp again or does it remember?
Ron

Vrods have different temps.   

"4.6.
Collecting VTune Data
Once the vehicle is warmed up and ready, all the indicators will turn green and you are ready to ride and collect your VTune data. The "green" temperature will vary based on the model that is selected:
•
Big Twin = 75 to 155 °C (167 to 311 °F)
•
VRSC = 85 to 120 °C (185 to 248 °F)
•
Sportster = 145 to 230 °C (293 to 446 °F)"

Read over your TTS manual and set the temps to what it suggests.  Like we have talked about before.  More cells, with less room.

Thanks for the temps .
Ron

[Kblhd]

Fire - medic
Thanks started new files under My documents and it works thanks

[Fire-Medic]

Fire - medic
Thanks started new files under My documents and it works thanks

No sweat it was still fresh in my mind because I had just done it, lol.

[upnorthbiker]

Hi,
Sorry if this is a stupid question but this screen is not shown in the Adobe document PVAutotune.01.pdf.
Ok, so Ive run an Auto tune basic session, exported the tune and now am going through the screens to flash this tune to the ECU, then the following question is asked before flashing the tune can proceed,
" Do you want to reset learned FUEL TRIM values ? "
" This is necessary ONLY if youve changed any Air-Fuel related parameters"
      YES       NO
So, do I press YES or NO ?

Thanks,
Jeff

[joe_lyons]

Did you change any of the tables in the afr table.  If not then no.   

[upnorthbiker]

Hi Joe,
No changes to the AFR, Ive just exported the learned map to a slot then wanted to flash this map to the ECU.
Thanks for your help.
Jeff

[delta]

The way I understood it was that if you have done an autotuning run then your VE tables have changed. This is a parameter that affects fuel. I reset the fuel trims when asked.

[Ken R]

The way I understood it was that if you have done an autotuning run then your VE tables have changed. This is a parameter that affects fuel. I reset the fuel trims when asked.

Me, too.  It'll learn them again.  Since the VE's have changed, it NEEDS to relearn.  At least that's how I understand it. 


If I was changing something like idle speed, throttle by wire settings, or any other parameter in the ECM with the flash, I'd select "No". 




Ken

[joe_lyons]

Ohh ya ur right my bad.  Its not cool not getting to tune bikes anymore you start to forget about stuff. 

[Jamie Long]

Anytime you have made a change to the VE table or or are changing calibrations you need to reset the learned fuel trims as long term fuel trims (more specifically AFF/AFV) are stored in memory, not the calibration itself. 

[rbabos]

Anytime you have made a change to the VE table or or are changing calibrations you need to reset the learned fuel trims as long term fuel trims (more specifically AFF/AFV) are stored in memory, not the calibration itself.

I'm somewhat confused on that part. The way I read it, if you select autotune the fuel trims are reset automatically, are they not?
If not, should the fuel trims be reset on each autotune session since the ve's have changed prior or reset only if the ve changes were done manually? Why the warning? Shouldn't the afv be reset anyway prior to the next autotune session?
Ron