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Water temperature code in ECM??

Started by Hillside Motorcycle, July 04, 2013, 03:32:07 PM

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kd

Just thinkin .... again.   :fish:  What if the newer higher flowing oil pump (which many top builders claim isn't necessary) was introduced to flow more oil to a future "oil head" design?  :nix:  It is known that the Mo Co has been dabbling in that for a few years (XR1200R) and applied for such a patent in 2010. With the higher flow pump and a redesigned oil cooler, flow to the heads, and oil drains in the barrels (like our old pans and shovels) to the low mount oil pans, very few cosmetic changes would have to be made.

The Mo Co customer base has been nurtured and is loyal no matter what as long as the traditional things are attached to their motorcycles. The low rpm air cooled engine is a huge part of it. To change the look too much trying to hide a rad would put them in the "metric" competition field. Harley likely couldn't compete with the metric prices and sales in the field they have so soundly secured. The V-Rod (sorry but no disrespect intended because I like em too) appeared to be Harley's attempt to branch out into new designs and their sales do not seem to be too robust.  Most of us wouldn't buy one. They are too specialised. Not traditional enough.

Harley has worked very hard to please their main market, people who are prepared to pay the price for a traditional Harley and resist change. The "after sale" money to be made in bling, performance accessories, and brand licencing would be in jeopardy. If I was a shareholder I'D BE BAILING!   :unsure:

Maybe I think too much?  :scratch:
KD

Bike31

I'm frankly surprised that HD hasn't developed a higher heat transfer system via oil cooling. The coolers they do offer are a joke compared with BMW for example. Small and w/o an idle fan. Maybe they tried, but the oil couldn't pull down the engine temps with more directed flow and larger coolers. The oil gets cooled via the cooler, but maybe not the heads. Redesign may be in order if Indian nips at their heels.

The Softails with the exposed tank probably work better than the A-engines with the integral sumps. Plus they could offer a finned aluminum tank like Yamaha and others on that model. But then it would look new, not old, and that might hurt sales.

euchre98

Its a code found in a data table stored in the ECM....Its code reutilization.....Very common in the software word. More than likely what we'll see is the same ECM across the board in all the bikes and just various programs loaded for each model. The data tables remain the same. Saves HD money and cuts down on the number of programmers you have to pay and put up with thier quirky BS.

But what would I know I've only been testing software for 15 years for DoD.........Most days I'd rather go back to being a John Deere mechanic.....