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Water temperature code in ECM??

Started by Hillside Motorcycle, July 04, 2013, 03:32:07 PM

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Hillside Motorcycle

July 04, 2013, 03:32:07 PM
Heard from one of the shops we are in contact with, that a water temp code surfaced, on a late 2013 touring model.
What's up with that, or do I already know that answer?
Scott
Otto Knowbetter sez, "Even a fish wouldn't get caught if he kept his mouth shut"

rking1550

July 04, 2013, 03:39:09 PM #1
I hope he was talking about his truck.

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Hillside Motorcycle

July 04, 2013, 03:41:52 PM #2
Was not his truck.
Otto Knowbetter sez, "Even a fish wouldn't get caught if he kept his mouth shut"

truck

July 04, 2013, 03:43:35 PM #3
Quote from: HILLSIDECYCLE on July 04, 2013, 03:32:07 PM
Heard from one of the shops we are in contact with, that a water temp code surfaced, on a late 2013 touring model.
What's up with that, or do I already know that answer?
Scott
I knew it was coming!! :teeth:
Listen to the jingle the rumble and the roar.

slo-poke 03

July 04, 2013, 03:59:04 PM #4
very interesting, I always used to say if you wanted to know what a company was doing, get to the bean counters. I guess I could add, get to the programmers now.

Ohio HD

July 04, 2013, 04:28:54 PM #5
Coming to an HD dealer near you in 2015, WATER....     :tfhat:

ThumperDeuce

July 04, 2013, 04:34:05 PM #6
Are the engines compatible enough that the v rod and air cooled engines could use the same ECM so it would be a cost saving thing?  You bagger guys like to ride in the rain a lot so maybe you could use the signal to modify the timing and fuel tables to compensate for the rain temperature being sucked into the intake  :wink:
Idiots are fun, no wonder every village wants one.

Ohio HD

July 04, 2013, 04:42:59 PM #7
Quote from: ThumperDeuce on July 04, 2013, 04:34:05 PM
Are the engines compatible enough that the v rod and air cooled engines could use the same ECM so it would be a cost saving thing?  You bagger guys like to ride in the rain a lot so maybe you could use the signal to modify the timing and fuel tables to compensate for the rain temperature being sucked into the intake  :wink:

ha ha ha ha   :up:

1931jamesw

July 04, 2013, 04:45:57 PM #8
What exactly was the trouble code?

Coyote

July 04, 2013, 04:58:30 PM #9
Quote from: INDEPENDENT 1 on July 04, 2013, 04:45:57 PM
What exactly was the trouble code?

h200


Ohio HD

July 04, 2013, 05:02:47 PM #10

1931jamesw

July 04, 2013, 05:04:19 PM #11

Durwood

July 04, 2013, 05:34:43 PM #12
Quote from: Ohio HD on July 04, 2013, 04:42:59 PM
Quote from: ThumperDeuce on July 04, 2013, 04:34:05 PM
Are the engines compatible enough that the v rod and air cooled engines could use the same ECM so it would be a cost saving thing?  You bagger guys like to ride in the rain a lot so maybe you could use the signal to modify the timing and fuel tables to compensate for the rain temperature being sucked into the intake  :wink:

ha ha ha ha   :up:
Does tts have a W-tune feature..  :hyst:

rbabos

July 04, 2013, 05:51:08 PM #13
Quote from: ThumperDeuce on July 04, 2013, 04:34:05 PM
Are the engines compatible enough that the v rod and air cooled engines could use the same ECM so it would be a cost saving thing?  You bagger guys like to ride in the rain a lot so maybe you could use the signal to modify the timing and fuel tables to compensate for the rain temperature being sucked into the intake  :wink:
I suspect they are the same. Engine temp can be water or head, just different temps in play with different sensors.
Ron

gordonr

July 04, 2013, 07:39:34 PM #14
I heard a story about the older race tuner was limited to 7000 rpm and the vrod software wasn't. So....
"If was easy everyone would do it"

Ohio HD

July 04, 2013, 07:41:07 PM #15
Quote from: Durwood on July 04, 2013, 05:34:43 PM
Quote from: Ohio HD on July 04, 2013, 04:42:59 PM
Quote from: ThumperDeuce on July 04, 2013, 04:34:05 PM
Are the engines compatible enough that the v rod and air cooled engines could use the same ECM so it would be a cost saving thing?  You bagger guys like to ride in the rain a lot so maybe you could use the signal to modify the timing and fuel tables to compensate for the rain temperature being sucked into the intake  :wink:

ha ha ha ha   :up:
Does tts have a W-tune feature..  :hyst:

Be nice Durwood!   :hyst:

Jaycee1964

July 05, 2013, 03:05:10 AM #16
Everyone will be "Drowning" in sorrow the day it comes...
If you have to stop and think about if it is right or wrong, Assume it is wrong.

1FSTRK

July 05, 2013, 03:33:12 AM #17
Looking at the design of the FLH2O heads it will be interesting to see how many head porters will turn them into water cooled exhaust. Could be the end of hogging out the exhaust ports.
"Never hang on to a mistake just because you spent time or money making it."

pstreetglide62

July 05, 2013, 03:57:28 AM #18
We will find out when we go to right up the road to the 110th in a month or so.Reminds me of when motocross bikes started water cooling the heads first.  Paul :smile:

Hillside Motorcycle

July 05, 2013, 04:29:08 AM #19
Hydro-Glides coming soon.
Scott
Otto Knowbetter sez, "Even a fish wouldn't get caught if he kept his mouth shut"

rbabos

July 05, 2013, 04:56:02 AM #20
Quote from: HILLSIDECYCLE on July 05, 2013, 04:29:08 AM
Hydro-Glides coming soon.
Scott
Eventually. Still room with the air cooled to pass EPA from what I see.
Ron

Bakon

July 05, 2013, 05:58:31 AM #21
Heard rumor of no Roadglide for a year or so, then reintroduced. Seemed fishy since they are finally catching on as cool, but maybe they will be the first swimmers since the shark nose and all.
wasting time

Showdog75

July 05, 2013, 06:44:10 AM #22
Water will be great, better temp control=higher compression=higher potential Hp on pump gas. Win win

ThumperDeuce

July 05, 2013, 06:58:01 AM #23 Last Edit: July 05, 2013, 07:00:43 AM by ThumperDeuce
Quote from: Showdog75 on July 05, 2013, 06:44:10 AM
Water will be great, better temp control=higher compression=higher potential Hp on pump gas. Win win

A water cooled engine may be thermodynamically superior to an air cooled engine but I think a radiator ruins the lines ( appearance ) of  a v-twin.
Idiots are fun, no wonder every village wants one.

truck

July 05, 2013, 07:06:57 AM #24
Quote from: ThumperDeuce on July 05, 2013, 06:58:01 AM
Quote from: Showdog75 on July 05, 2013, 06:44:10 AM
Water will be great, better temp control=higher compression=higher potential Hp on pump gas. Win win

A water cooled engine may be thermodynamically superior to an air cooled engine but I think a radiator ruins the lines ( appearance ) of  a v-twin.
Not if the two radiators are hidden in the lower fairing as shown in the patent drawings.
http://cyrilhuzeblog.com/2011/06/21/harley-davidson-water-cooled-heads-patent/
Listen to the jingle the rumble and the roar.
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