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S&S 144 engine Specs

Started by HD/Wrench, September 29, 2014, 03:44:35 PM

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No Cents

"A"...I don't think this was designed as a touring motor intended for long term use.
I was shocked it comes with a 6 month warranty to tell you the truth.
This engine isn't going to be for the faint of heart!
I think if it's well maintained it will last a long time...but if your ripping on it...something will be breaking. More than likely the weaker links on the bike initially. Once all that has been worked out...Lord knows what's going to happen.

Ray

08 FLHX my grocery getter, 124ci, wfolarry 110" heads, Burns pipe, 158/152 sae

rob71458

Ray, you may be in that same situation soon too.  Don't know if that is a good thing or a bad thing though. :scratch:
2007 SERK 124, S&S jugs,SE110 heads,640G's,11.5, 58/62 HPI,Bandit,DD7,Bzilla

No Cents

 I'm there already Rob.
I've had clutch and comp issues and I've seen evidence of tranny trap door flex. All this kind of stuff will have to be addressed with an engine like this one.
A 144"er will show stuff like what I've seen...even faster I would think.
But man...just think of all that power they will make.  :wink:

Ray
08 FLHX my grocery getter, 124ci, wfolarry 110" heads, Burns pipe, 158/152 sae

76shuvlinoff

Even if I could afford the engine I couldn't afford to feed it tires.  :teeth:
Critics are men who watch a battle from a high place, then come down and shoot the survivors.
 - Ernest Hemingway

No Cents

 :hyst:
It would be a smart move to own stock in your favorite rear tire manufacturer.
08 FLHX my grocery getter, 124ci, wfolarry 110" heads, Burns pipe, 158/152 sae

hrdtail78

I don't think engine size has much to do with engine longevity.  How it is built and what is being done to it is more important.  If the correct upgrades are made to the rest of the bike.  I own a 454 in a motorhome.  This isn't the same 454 in my buddy's drag boat.
Semper Fi

No Cents

Fed Ex delivery says...when?    :beer:
I bet your not going to sleep a wink tonight   :hyst:

Ray
08 FLHX my grocery getter, 124ci, wfolarry 110" heads, Burns pipe, 158/152 sae

strokerjlk

Quote from: No Cents on October 01, 2014, 07:34:41 PM
Fed Ex delivery says...when?    :beer:
I bet your not going to sleep a wink tonight   :hyst:

Ray
And I bet he calls off work tomorrow and has #10 wood about 10:30 am 
A scientific theory summarizes a hypothesis
repeated testing establishes theory

Durwood

Quote from: strokerjlk on October 01, 2014, 07:44:02 PM
Quote from: No Cents on October 01, 2014, 07:34:41 PM
Fed Ex delivery says...when?    :beer:
I bet your not going to sleep a wink tonight   :hyst:

Ray
And I bet he calls off work tomorrow and has #10 wood about 10:30 am
I bet your correct, a Redneck day will be in order. :smile:

TorQuePimp

it has the 635 ho cam in it ?

Or not 100% sure its the same one ?

2006FXDCI

I was told it was the 635HO cam by S&S today and was given a part # for that cam for the S&S oil pump gear drive cam . Part #330-0369
2006 Super glide 107" , 2005 electra glide 124"

TorQuePimp

in that case the advertised numbers are pretty much meaningless

I would be interested in seeing a set of B-3 heads tho

CowboyTutt

Quotein that case the advertised numbers are pretty much meaningless

Torque, why so?  I honestly don't understand.  Are the tolerances so bad that the cam specs vary a lot? -Tutt

TorQuePimp

October 02, 2014, 07:23:01 PM #38 Last Edit: October 02, 2014, 07:25:18 PM by torqueinc
  Not cam specs....advertised horsepower numbers

  Big engine with huge ports,really big bore and they stick a little puppy cam and less than 10.5-1 compression and it has only been tested with one pipe.

  A little more squeeze and a different cam and exhaust.....things could get interesting.

JohnCA58

 :agree:   would like to expect 1.25 hp per cubic inch. with more c.r. and cam
YOLO

sfmichael

Quote from: torqueinc on October 02, 2014, 07:23:01 PM
  Not cam specs....advertised horsepower numbers

  Big engine with huge ports,really big bore and they stick a little puppy cam and less than 10.5-1 compression and it has only been tested with one pipe.

  A little more squeeze and a different cam and exhaust.....things could get interesting.

Probably easier to offer a warranty on what would basically be considered a de-tuned race motor. I'm betting they know many won't leave well enough alone - but once the fun starts, the warranty is out the window. Might have been planned that way...  :nix:
Bet it runs pretty damn good even at 10.5:1  :wink:
Colorado Springs, CO.

76shuvlinoff

I would imagine S&S has a recipe and package for more spank, costs a bit more, likely voids the warranty.

You know, like H-D does...  :wink:
Critics are men who watch a battle from a high place, then come down and shoot the survivors.
 - Ernest Hemingway

Ohio HD

Watch for the Star Racing versions that will no doubt surface...   

1FSTRK

Quote from: Ohio HD on October 03, 2014, 02:59:57 AM
Watch for the Star Racing versions that will no doubt surface...

Ding Ding Ding we have a winner.
"Never hang on to a mistake just because you spent time or money making it."

Templer

Look at the rocker ratio used with those .635  IT MADE 130 HP/120 tork  with a 106/635HO CNC package so This should be fun. There is MORE left on the table. WARRANTY!!!!!!  Bets on -2 cams have been taken.
Pony with BIG heart!!!!
:pop:

Durwood

Who gets the honor of tuning the first HTT 144 ?

No Cents

 Paradise Performance...would be a safe bet   :wink:

Ray
08 FLHX my grocery getter, 124ci, wfolarry 110" heads, Burns pipe, 158/152 sae

HD/Wrench

S&S oil pump set up no cams for it other than what S&S has to offer. You could remove all of it and buy new pump plate cam cover etc.. More power for what. You got guys out there that cannot figure out how to make 140 hp work with out burning out the clutch, tearing up drive train parts..

Then let the dyno games start  as not like it's a mystery some drums are reading higher than others,....or maybe race track results, who knows ,

But if I can pull a 7.30 in the 1/8 on a  bagger with a basic out the box S&S engine with approx  20 less hp and almost the reduction on tq .. I am betting that bike with a rider that can figure out you dont need max rpm to launch and not burn down parts will be a 10 second member or high 6 if its the 1/8 mile crowd.. 




No Cents

 Steve...Randy's bike will probably never see the drag strip as being a competitor...spectator...yes.
It will however be one badass bar hopper bagger.

Ray
08 FLHX my grocery getter, 124ci, wfolarry 110" heads, Burns pipe, 158/152 sae

Templer

Picture this:
Yamaha  :scoot: rider
"What the F was that?"
:idunno:
:chop:
A  S&S 144 HD Bagger on a "BEER RUN" !!!!
:hyst: