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110 ci big bore kits for 2007 up

Started by strokerjlk, August 22, 2015, 09:50:25 AM

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strokerjlk

Quote from: mike jesse on August 22, 2015, 07:00:34 PM
Jim, would you be interested in a 115 with those 120/113 cylinders?

Bore is 4.090 in. I think.
it sounds real interesting. but right now all my spare change  is going towards 3.875 bore stuff. and i need start doing all the little things to go faster,instead of just making more HP.
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98fxstc

Quote from: RXBOB on August 22, 2015, 05:13:47 PM
Wait to MCE gets the mail on these :oops:

107cubers copped it this 110 will surely be in for it, and who ever gets one be sure to do a leak down test and post up :fish:
:up:

BUBBIE

Jim,

I sent you an Email as your PM box is filled... from Lonnie

I wondered Who to see to Look or Buy these Cylinders and Pistons going 110 like you said in My Thread...

I often wondered (long ago) why someone didn't do that; Making a special cylinder to fit for larger bores without boring the cases...
I guess, I was onto a good Idea and Didn't know it... :doh:

signed....BUBBIE
***********************
Quite Often I am Right, so Forgive me when I'm WRONG !!!

strokerjlk

Quote from: BUBBIE on August 22, 2015, 09:30:27 PM
Jim,

I sent you an Email as your PM box is filled... from Lonnie

I wondered Who to see to Look or Buy these Cylinders and Pistons going 110 like you said in My Thread...

I often wondered (long ago) why someone didn't do that; Making a special cylinder to fit for larger bores without boring the cases...
I guess, I was onto a good Idea and Didn't know it... :doh:

signed....BUBBIE
They will be available from your favorite Harley Davidson dealer ,in a few weeks .
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BVHOG

This seems to me to be a fucking disaster looking for a place to happen, you don't suppose the moco did the Nikasil do you?
Are these cylinders going to use a base gasket?
I should have a new 16 here before the end of the week (my own bike) and will be pulling it down for a build the week after.  I am all for pushing things to the limit but this might be the straw that breaks the camels back. If I feel the need for more than 107 then I think I will just pull the motor, bore the cases, install an S&S crank and build a decent 113 and be done with it.
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strokerjlk

Quote from: BVHOG on August 23, 2015, 06:51:54 AM
This seems to me to be a fucking disaster looking for a place to happen, you don't suppose the moco did the Nikasil do you?
Are these cylinders going to use a base gasket?
I should have a new 16 here before the end of the week (my own bike) and will be pulling it down for a build the week after.  I am all for pushing things to the limit but this might be the straw that breaks the camels back. If I feel the need for more than 107 then I think I will just pull the motor, bore the cases, install an S&S crank and build a decent 113 and be done with it.
but someone else might be happy with a 90- 95 hp 115-120 tq 110 with a warranty.
or 125 square with a warranty at the right dealership.
even without a a warranty they will sell them. thousands of 110's making 120/125. that didn't require any fluff.
I don't know how they are gonna seal it .I assumed a base gasket when I seen the advertised compression.
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TorQuePimp

  Anyone have a link to this nonsense ?

1FSTRK

I would think that it is a 110 cylinder with the spigot turned down to fit stock cases.
The cylinder would be plenty strong enough but the spigot gets thinner than any I have seen work.
I wonder if they could leave a step where the spigot meets the cylinder base and do away with the o-ring, then use a 110 base gasket.
If nothing else it will be interesting to see.
"Never hang on to a mistake just because you spent time or money making it."

hrdtail78

Are the HD cylinders lined with ductile iron like the Axtell's or they just cast?  Pretty thin spigot for cast.
Semper Fi

TorQuePimp

  Cast they are...good grade ductile iron.....not a chance....cheapest iron they can probably get

strokerjlk

Quote from: 1FSTRK on August 23, 2015, 10:50:47 AM
I would think that it is a 110 cylinder with the spigot turned down to fit stock cases.
The cylinder would be plenty strong enough but the spigot gets thinner than any I have seen work.
I wonder if they could leave a step where the spigot meets the cylinder base and do away with the o-ring, then use a 110 base gasket.
If nothing else it will be interesting to see.
I mocked one up today with a 103 and 4" 110 cylinders . .0355  is what the spigot thicknes comes out to .
The ring contact only protrudes into the spigot .008 .
I don't see a problem. Cylinders are proven , and there is no stress to the spigot.
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Hilly13

I will think about it when someone makes a piston for the 4" stroke, cheap cubes for me.
Just because its said don't make it so

Don D

August 23, 2015, 05:58:26 PM #37 Last Edit: August 23, 2015, 06:00:40 PM by HD Street Performance
The piston gauge point / contact point is well into the spigot.
Not something I would care to experiment with.

strokerjlk

August 23, 2015, 06:03:58 PM #38 Last Edit: August 23, 2015, 06:06:30 PM by strokerjlk
softail 110 ci model just released non CVO. wonder if it has a cvo 110 or one of these new 110 big bores?  :scoot:
Fatboy S model
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BVHOG

Quote from: strokerjlk on August 23, 2015, 06:03:58 PM
softail 110 ci model just released non CVO. wonder if it has a cvo 110 or one of these new 110 big bores?  :scoot:
Fatboy S model
Likely which ever one costs less to produce
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strokerjlk

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mattVA

Just curious, why would they list this kit as only fitting 2010 and up models?
2009 FXDF

strokerjlk

Quote from: mattVA on August 24, 2015, 05:54:31 AM
Just curious, why would they list this kit as only fitting 2010 and up models?
IDK.  I saw that on the online listing too for the 255/ 110 head combo . I was told 2007 up .and one of the kits said 2007 up . I think it was the cnc stock style head kit
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rigidthumper

92500039 Black Highlighted. $1,195.95
Fits '07-later Twin Cam models with 4-3/8" stroke flywheel.
Cannot be installed on CVO™ 110, FLSS or FLSTFBS 110
models or models with engine cases that have been
machined to accept large-bore cylinders. Twin-Cooled™
models require separate purchase of model-specific head
gaskets.

Cyl/piston kit -07 to present.
Ignorance is bliss, and accuracy expensive. How much of either can you afford?

Don D

They must be a tight fit in the case looking there for support.
The spigots will flex just holding them with your hands at .035

PanHeadRed

Quote from: strokerjlk on August 23, 2015, 06:03:58 PM
softail 110 ci model just released non CVO. wonder if it has a cvo 110 or one of these new 110 big bores?  :scoot:
Fatboy S model

You had me wondering, C&P from HD website

ENGINE
Engine 1 Screamin' Eagle® Air-cooled, Twin Cam 110B™
Bore 4 in.
Stroke 4.374 in.
Displacement 110 cu in
Compression Ratio 9.5:1
Fuel System 3 Electronic Sequential Port Fuel Injection (ESPFI)



mattVA

Quote from: PanHeadRed on August 24, 2015, 09:23:16 AM
Quote from: strokerjlk on August 23, 2015, 06:03:58 PM
softail 110 ci model just released non CVO. wonder if it has a cvo 110 or one of these new 110 big bores?  :scoot:
Fatboy S model

You had me wondering, C&P from HD website

ENGINE
Engine 1 Screamin' Eagle® Air-cooled, Twin Cam 110B™
Bore 4 in.
Stroke 4.374 in.
Displacement 110 cu in
Compression Ratio 9.5:1
Fuel System 3 Electronic Sequential Port Fuel Injection (ESPFI)

So which is it, CVO style 110 or big bore
2009 FXDF

rigidthumper

S Models use the original 110/255 engines with the bigger case bore for the original SE110 cylinders.
Ignorance is bliss, and accuracy expensive. How much of either can you afford?

Barrett

"Stroke 4.374 in." Is that a typo? It isn't much of a change if it isn't..

strokerjlk

Quote from: HD Street Performance on August 24, 2015, 09:08:04 AM
They must be a tight fit in the case looking there for support.
The spigots will flex just holding them with your hands at .035
You of all people , I never expected the skepticism from.
I figured the rest would . But I am kinda surprised you don't know better .
   
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