110 ci big bore kits for 2007 up

[strokerjlk]

It will now be possible to do a big bore 110 ci on the 2007 up 4 3/8 stroke without splitting the cases .
Ron Dickey and the guys at Axtell change the Harley world once again.
Looks like they liked Axtell's 124 ci drop in kit for the 120 R so well , they came up with a plan to get their big bore business back .

[Durwood]

 Edit: Post not needed with updated OP. Thanks Jim

[strokerjlk]

the MOCO is coming out with the kit.
Axtell is not involved .other than they did it first, with the 120 R to 124 drop in kit.

[strokerjlk]

9.3 ish  flat top and 10.3 ish dome is advertised.
will be in stage kits also. 255 cams 585 cams .CNC head or no heads
110 heads and 259 cams IIRC is stage 4

[BUBBIE]

Guys,

What did this entail to go Bigger without doing the cases. Or am I missing the boat here? (splitting oR boring the cases ?)

Would the Cylinders be special made to give you the Bore Material and Still (thin) fit into the Case?

Maybe explain please.

signed....BUBBIE

[TorQuePimp]

  Of all the things they could have done this is down the list just after a 30" wheel bolt on kit or a back to the future time travel kit

[07heri]

Would love to see some numbers on this when it comes out.  I have 255's in a 96".  From a 96" to 110", with the low 255's sounds interesting.  But, with the tall gears in an 07 I'd be leary of tearing something up.  It already feels like I'm taking off in 2nd gear, compared to the newer bikes.  If the 103's have issues with the 255's, how is a 110 any improvement?  Is what you say for real?

[strokerjlk]

Guys,

What did this entail to go Bigger without doing the cases. Or am I missing the boat here? (splitting oR boring the cases ?)

Would the Cylinders be special made to give you the Bore Material and Still (thin) fit into the Case?

Maybe explain please.

signed....BUBBIE

you got it

[strokerjlk]

Would love to see some numbers on this when it comes out.  I have 255's in a 96".  From a 96" to 110", with the low 255's sounds interesting.  But, with the tall gears in an 07 I'd be leary of tearing something up.  It already feels like I'm taking off in 2nd gear, compared to the newer bikes.  If the 103's have issues with the 255's, how is a 110 any improvement?  Is what you say for real?

the 255's came stock in the 110 since 2007.
so you could have the same setup 90-95 hp 115-120 tq when tuned proper.
or you can step it up some, with their stage kits.
what this does is help the MOCO's P&A department. they will now have their big bore revenue back.
anything that keeps Harley around ,boosts stock ,and keep the tech's from getting laid off is a good thing in my opinion.
course it isn't good for the independent parts pusher .

[1FSTRK]

Jim, do the cylinders have any spigot on them?
Stock spigot is about 4.053 outside and a 110 bore is 4.003 inside.

[07heri]

Would love to see some numbers on this when it comes out.  I have 255's in a 96".  From a 96" to 110", with the low 255's sounds interesting.  But, with the tall gears in an 07 I'd be leary of tearing something up.  It already feels like I'm taking off in 2nd gear, compared to the newer bikes.  If the 103's have issues with the 255's, how is a 110 any improvement?  Is what you say for real?

the 255's came stock in the 110 since 2007.
so you could have the same setup 90-95 hp 115-120 tq when tuned proper.
or you can step it up some, with their stage kits.
what this does is help the MOCO's P&A department. they will now have their big bore revenue back.
anything that keeps Harley around ,boosts stock ,and keep the tech's from getting laid off is a good thing in my opinion.
course it isn't good for the independent parts pusher .

So you think these 110 kits will be good out of the box?  if 106 or 107 was pushing the envelope. What is the mother doing with cylinder material, meaning thickness? Are these rebores or a total new design?

[strokerjlk]

Jim, do the cylinders have any spigot on them?
Stock spigot is about 4.053 outside and a 110 bore is 4.003 inside.

yes they have a spigot.

07
calling them a new cylinder. but it's bound to be the same alum outer with a change in the cast liner specs. I doubt it is any new type of cast material.

[07heri]

Jim, do the cylinders have any spigot on them?
Stock spigot is about 4.053 outside and a 110 bore is 4.003 inside.

yes they have a spigot.

07
calling them a new cylinder. but it's bound to be the same alum outer with a change in the cast liner specs. I doubt it is any new type of cast material.

Have to wait and see i guess.

[RXBOB]

Wait to MCE gets the mail on these

107cubers copped it this 110 will surely be in for it, and who ever gets one be sure to do a leak down test and post up

[Durwood]

 Edit: Post not needed with updated OP.

[1FSTRK]

Jim, do the cylinders have any spigot on them?
Stock spigot is about 4.053 outside and a 110 bore is 4.003 inside.

yes they have a spigot.

Are you sure they did not just bore all the 2016 cases to fit the 110 cylinder spigots?
Do the drop in kits fit the older bikes?

[Coff 06]

Wonder if they will come out with a 4" stroke piston ?             Coff 06

[strokerjlk]

Jim, do the cylinders have any spigot on them?
Stock spigot is about 4.053 outside and a 110 bore is 4.003 inside.

yes they have a spigot.

Are you sure they did not just bore all the 2016 cases to fit the 110 cylinder spigots?
Do the drop in kits fit the older bikes?

no 2007 up
I still like my idea. bore all the cases to fit 4.060 bore. or just use the race case from now on. dealerships could rake it in then.

[strokerjlk]

Wonder if they will come out with a 4" stroke piston ?             Coff 06

not yet . but aftermarket will jump on it 

[1FSTRK]

Jim, do the cylinders have any spigot on them?
Stock spigot is about 4.053 outside and a 110 bore is 4.003 inside.

yes they have a spigot.

Are you sure they did not just bore all the 2016 cases to fit the 110 cylinder spigots?
Do the drop in kits fit the older bikes?

no 2007 up
I still like my idea. bore all the cases to fit 4.060 bore. or just use the race case from now on. dealerships could rake it in then.

That is only a .020-.030 thick spigot, how thick is the one on the Axtell 120-124 kit?

[Durwood]

Wonder if they will come out with a 4" stroke piston ?             Coff 06

100ci, 4.00 X 4.00 engine would be a very cool without having to bore cases.

Deye76 told me once that the smoothest engine he ever had was a 4 x 4 100"er.

Randy at Hyperformance had pistons made when we were doing the all bore 104's, like Jim said, someone will offer them if these cylinders work out.

[strokerjlk]

Jim, do the cylinders have any spigot on them?
Stock spigot is about 4.053 outside and a 110 bore is 4.003 inside.

yes they have a spigot.

Are you sure they did not just bore all the 2016 cases to fit the 110 cylinder spigots?
Do the drop in kits fit the older bikes?

no 2007 up
I still like my idea. bore all the cases to fit 4.060 bore. or just use the race case from now on. dealerships could rake it in then.

That is only a .020-.030 thick spigot, how thick is the one on the Axtell 120-124 kit?

I honestly don't remember what they ended up being. I am searching though. I have notes somewhere

[mike jesse]

A 110 cylinder spigot dia. is 4.181 in.
Machining them for a 4.060 113 piston leaves the spigot wall at .060 in. Done that.

Now if the case has room for the 120 cylinder spigot, all the better.

[strokerjlk]

A 110 cylinder spigot dia. is 4.181 in.
Machining them for a 4.060 113 piston leaves the spigot wall at .060 in. Done that.

Now if the case has room for the 120 cylinder spigot, all the better.

thats what I have on my 4" cylinders bored to 4.060 also. i have .062 thickness
120  is 4.238-4.240 and .096-.098  thickness

[mike jesse]

Jim, would you be interested in a 115 with those 120/113 cylinders?

Bore is 4.090 in. I think.