TWIN POWER Lithium-Ion battery

[Tattoo]

I know it spins my high compression 124" over with ease after sitting in a cold garage in February in Maine.

[Sunny Jim]

we use them down under. Lithium is the talk of the town.  Awesome discovery.

[John/1]

I would like to try one in my Kenny Boyce has a Kraftech stainless steel oil tank and I have room for a 30 XTL and 3.75 quarts of oil.
John

[strokerjlk]

Gonna try one in my race bike .now I don't have to diet .

[76shuvlinoff]

Granted I didn't check many sources but Motorcycle Superstore says $300 for one to fit my 12 EG.  The battery in it is less than a year old so I guess I can wait a while.

Mark

[IronMike113]

We could start our story on that Box in the back Ground hahahahahahahaha just messin with Yah Jim.......  (if that's the same one)

[strokerjlk]

We could start our story on that Box in the back Ground hahahahahahahaha just messin with Yah Jim.......  (if that's the same one)

same box

[joe_lyons]

Another choice that doesn't require a special battery charger.

[Flintlock]

In post 22 buffalo differentiates between lithium ion and lithium polymer. This ad combines the terms? What's up?

I also see the terms lithium ion and iron used back and forth. Totally confused. Using made in USA AGM.

[Karl H.]

All lithium batteries are lithium ion. Lithium polymer is a lithium ion battery which uses a polymer foil as separator between anode and cathode. Lithium iron phosphate is a lithium ion battery, which has an iron phosphate cathode.

Karl

[motorhogman]

Is that the same kind of battery those exploding hover boards use ?

[strokerjlk]

Another choice that doesn't require a special battery charger.

The twin power directions say , you can use conventional lead-acid 12 V charger ( without pulse charging function )

[Flintlock]

All lithium batteries are lithium ion. Lithium polymer is a lithium ion battery which uses a polymer foil as separator between anode and cathode. Lithium iron phosphate is a lithium ion battery, which has an iron phosphate cathode.

Karl

Thanks Karl. That clears it up quite a bit.

[WML57]

Back in a 2014 Cycle World issue, Kevin Cameron wrote and article on Lithium batterys. In the article he listed 5 different chemistry types used and their properties. Lithium cobalt oxide provided the most energy density, but also created the most electrode resistance compared to the other chemistries. Higher resistance equals more heat, and this battery type is the one that makes the news. Lithium iron phosphate is the most common automotive type and has lower energy density but "inherent thermal safety".

[Karl H.]

Lithium iron phasphate (LiFePo) is the chemistry of choice for starter batteries. It is used by Porsche and Mercedes for their performance cars. The battery Mercedes uses is supplied by A123 (Michigan, USA).

http://www.a123systems.com/Collateral/Images/English-US/Gen3%20SB%20A123%20web.jpg

Karl

[strokerjlk]

Gonna try one in my race bike .now I don't have to diet .

use the supplied bolts with the battery.
I tried to use my stock bolts and they are a little to long to make a good connection. they bottom out and appear to be tight ,but they will not have a good connection.

[Thumper Buttercup]

So where are you guys getting your battery and chargers from??

Trying to decide between the Lithium and the Yusas normal
battery.

[HD/Wrench]

Bringing this back up ..  I installed the Twin power batter in my 124 at the end of summer. Bike has not been on a tender Rode it last about a week ago  and we finally  got some cold temps for tx HA HA it got down to 30 last night . I walked out and turn on the key hit the button and the engine spun over like butter and fired right off. I can tell you that my Std HD battery would not have done that.

I can tell you that I am impressed , the battery is a bit costly . But in my opinion worth it .

[Deye76]

"which has an iron phosphate cathode."

From what I hear doesn't explode like the ion can. 

[Pete_Vit]

Bringing this back up ..  I installed the Twin power batter in my 124 at the end of summer. Bike has not been on a tender Rode it last about a week ago  and we finally  got some cold temps for tx HA HA it got down to 30 last night . I walked out and turn on the key hit the button and the engine spun over like butter and fired right off. I can tell you that my Std HD battery would not have done that.

I can tell you that I am impressed , the battery is a bit costly . But in my opinion worth it .

thanks for the heads up

[HD/Wrench]

well its not often we get cold weather. Mine was a odd issue with the HD AMG battery if on a tender it would light off great but left off for a week or so and it would not. I Own a Vat 45 load tester the battery checked out fine. However some times a loose plate or what ever can throw you a curve ball. And not fail ever time on a true carbon pile load tester. So I bought a new batter nope same deal..
Dropped that Twin power in there and its crazy how well it starts up.. Stock starter stock cables bike is 2012. 124 11.6 comp ratio with the ES cams CCP is 160 if I recall might be a tad more .. CRS sucks some days 

[Jonny Cash]

Ive had the same results, I have ran mine since June, have had zero issues, and it spins my124 easily.

[Tattoo]

Mine still spins my 124" over with no issues.

[Buffalo]

Could I ask specifically what you fellows are using for starters. I may be about to replace another All Balls 1.7 (3rd) in the last 2 years. This unit drops the voltage to 7 upon hitting the button, then climbs back to 11 on a brand new Yuasa battery. We replaced the battery, same problem.
I may have an issue with voltage bleed, after even 2 days, bike will not turn over. Applying a boost pack makes it instantly fire up.
The original 1.6 All Balls lasted 6 1/2 yrs, replaced under warranty with a 1.7. It failed after 1 yr, again replaced under warranty. The latest 1.7 might be defective with 6 months of use.
I was thinking about replacing it with an original 1.4 heavy duty HD starter. Buffalo

[Tattoo]

I have a 1.7 all balls starter.